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Matthew Dickinson July 14th 14 01:38 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
Govia plan to extend Oyster PAYG to Epsom, Gatwick Airport, Luton Airport, Welwyn Garden City and Hertford North.

Page 21 of http://assets.goaheadbus.com/media/c...esentation.pdf

I wonder if the AGA PAYG extension to Hertford East will be revived.

Stansted would also be logical with the new emphasis on serving airports.

Roland Perry July 14th 14 02:08 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In message , at
06:38:30 on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Matthew Dickinson
remarked:
Govia plan to extend Oyster PAYG to Epsom, Gatwick Airport, Luton Airport, Welwyn Garden City and Hertford North.

Page 21 of http://assets.goaheadbus.com/media/c...esentation.pdf

I wonder if the AGA PAYG extension to Hertford East will be revived.

Stansted would also be logical with the new emphasis on serving airports.


Has TfL solved the problem of there only being an absurdly low number of
possible 'zones' for Oyster cards?

It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.

ps I note that (subject to getting someone else to pay for it) they will
be introducing 25 electric vehicle charging points. erm... that's
significantly less than one per station (they claim to have over a
hundred 'busiest' ones).
--
Roland Perry

Neil Williams July 14th 14 02:53 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:08:17 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:
It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.


SN is run by...Govia!

Neil

--
Neil Williams. Use neil before the at to reply.

Roland Perry July 14th 14 04:51 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In message , at 16:17:11 on
Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Paul Corfield remarked:

It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.


Surely it's connected? Having made the effort to introduce the Key


That's the "the Key", Shirley?

on Southern and to get it working into London it makes huge sense to
maximise the return from that effort.


Yes, but that's by making the "the Key" tickets interoperable within TfL
space, which they were already committed to, but at the current rate
won't actually achieve before their franchise turns into the the famous
pumpkin.

The Key will cover the entire TSGN franchise anyway.


That's good news. I look forward to using the "the Key" I have from
Southern for trips from Cambridgshire. Obviously, the the cough first
thing I'll try out is whether or not I can load a TSGN train ticket onto
the "the Key" I have for Oxford buses. And if not, why the the hell not?

There is also a proposal to extend smart ticketing (Oyster isn't
specifically mentioned) to the Luton Airport bus shuttle to the
Parkway station. That could be interesting if it happens *and*
includes Oyster.


Airport employees already have free travel on that there bus, and tptb
don't seem particularly worried about collecting fares from walk-up
passengers (which were originally free, anyway). Perhaps the the best
thing they could do is extract a Tfl bus-fare from everyone via their
Oyster, although I do wonder how many tourists arriving at Luton will
have that there Oyster.
--
Roland Perry

Matthew Dickinson July 14th 14 05:02 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 



Airport employees already have free travel on that there bus, and tptb

don't seem particularly worried about collecting fares from walk-up

passengers (which were originally free, anyway). Perhaps the the best

thing they could do is extract a Tfl bus-fare from everyone via their

Oyster, although I do wonder how many tourists arriving at Luton will

have that there Oyster.

--

Roland Perry


Easyjet sell Vistor Oystercards onboard.

Roland Perry July 14th 14 05:14 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In message , at
10:02:37 on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Matthew Dickinson
remarked:
I do wonder how many tourists arriving at Luton will
have that there Oyster.


Easyjet sell Vistor Oystercards onboard.


That's very helpful, if only more of them did. Although how actively. I
remember when it was said that the Eurostar lounge at St Pancras sold
Paris RATP carnets. But only if you absolutely insisted, and they went
away and discussed it with a manager.
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] July 14th 14 11:55 PM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In article ,
(Neil Williams) wrote:

On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:08:17 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:
It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.


SN is run by...Govia!


and will be part of the TSGN franchise next year.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry July 15th 14 07:18 AM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In message , at 18:55:45
on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, remarked:
It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.


SN is run by...Govia!


and will be part of the TSGN franchise next year.


Yes, I don't know what I was thinking... So I'm all set, already having
Southern ITSO card, assuming they press on with their current project.

"Nine London Terminal stations: London Waterloo, London Blackfriars,
Vauxhall, London Bridge, London Victoria, Waterloo East, Charing Cross,
Cannon Street and City Thameslink will accept the key from Spring 2014,
followed by the rest of the Southern Network and London Underground and
buses in Summer 2014."

Is it summer yet?
--
Roland Perry

[email protected] July 15th 14 08:10 AM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In article , (Roland Perry)
wrote:

In message , at
18:55:45 on Mon, 14 Jul 2014,
remarked:
It's interesting that Govia are pushing Oyster, when the current
Southern incumbent is pushing ITSO instead.

SN is run by...Govia!


and will be part of the TSGN franchise next year.


Yes, I don't know what I was thinking... So I'm all set, already
having Southern ITSO card, assuming they press on with their current
project.

"Nine London Terminal stations: London Waterloo, London Blackfriars,
Vauxhall, London Bridge, London Victoria, Waterloo East, Charing
Cross, Cannon Street and City Thameslink will accept the key from
Spring 2014, followed by the rest of the Southern Network and London
Underground and buses in Summer 2014."

Is it summer yet?


Autumn next year then!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry July 15th 14 08:39 AM

Oyster PAYG Extensions
 
In message , at 03:10:13
on Tue, 15 Jul 2014, remarked:
So I'm all set, already
having Southern ITSO card, assuming they press on with their current
project.

"Nine London Terminal stations: London Waterloo, London Blackfriars,
Vauxhall, London Bridge, London Victoria, Waterloo East, Charing
Cross, Cannon Street and City Thameslink will accept the key from
Spring 2014, followed by the rest of the Southern Network and London
Underground and buses in Summer 2014."

Is it summer yet?


Autumn next year then!


The ITSO on Underground is already late - it was originally supposed to
be 2013[1].

Talking of which, it's gone very quiet on the "Contactless" rollout on
the tube.

[1] From "ITSO news" May 2013:

Summer {that's summer 2103 -ed} will see 21 gated stations within
London start to accept some Southern rail tickets on the key card.
These include Victoria, London Bridge, Purley, Peckham Rye and
Sutton. The rest of this year will see more and more key services
being rolled out ... December is the target date for the
Underground, and London’s ungated and overground rail stations, to
be geared up to accept the key...
--
Roland Perry


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