Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 16/03/2015 08:41, Basil Jet wrote:

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/


Nice piece

--
Graeme Wall
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Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/

Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the National
Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and slightly
east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 16/03/2015 09:38, NY wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/


Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the
National Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and
slightly east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

403 error

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 16/03/2015 09:38, NY wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/


Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the
National Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and
slightly east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

Southwark Park is nowhere near the Oval and somewhat north-east of it.


--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 2015\03\16 09:08, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 16/03/2015 08:41, Basil Jet wrote:

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/



Nice piece

Thanks. Oh, you mean the webpage.

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 16/03/2015 10:09, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\03\16 09:08, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 16/03/2015 08:41, Basil Jet wrote:

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/




Nice piece

Thanks. Oh, you mean the webpage.

Down boy!

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 2015\03\16 09:45, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 16/03/2015 09:38, NY wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/



Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the
National Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and
slightly east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

Southwark Park is nowhere near the Oval and somewhat north-east of it.

If you can get the map to appear, there seems to have been another "The
Oval" cricket ground in Bermondsey.

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 16/03/2015 10:13, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2015\03\16 09:45, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 16/03/2015 09:38, NY wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/




Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the
National Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and
slightly east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

Southwark Park is nowhere near the Oval and somewhat north-east of it.

If you can get the map to appear, there seems to have been another "The
Oval" cricket ground in Bermondsey.


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Re the Bermondsey Oval, it is still, more or less, in existence, had an
artificial wicket installed around 2007 for local schools to use. It is
west of the Southwark Park Sports Complex:
https://goo.gl/maps/h6ZgM

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 09:45:06 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 16/03/2015 09:38, NY wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message
...

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2015...-network-rail/


Here's a 6-inch/mile OS map (1913-1914, published 1920) from the
National Library of Scotland site

http://s17.postimg.org/exnnse1v3/Image1.png

Southwark Park station was due south of The Oval cricket ground and
slightly east of South Bermondsey which was on the other line.

Southwark Park is nowhere near the Oval and somewhat north-east of it.

Maybe the railway that named it should have followed GW practice and
named it something along the lines of "Southwark Park Road"?

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

Maybe the railway that named it should have followed GW practice and
named it something along the lines of "Southwark Park Road"?

Wasn't it rather a long way from Southwark Park Road - with Rotherhithe
New Road a major road much closer?

PS
There are historical maps at
http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect...ical_Selection
for anyone having problems with the link. The 1915-20 survey shows the
station and other maps the before and after.
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:21:12 -0000, "Robin" wrote:

Maybe the railway that named it should have followed GW practice and
named it something along the lines of "Southwark Park Road"?

Wasn't it rather a long way from Southwark Park Road - with Rotherhithe
New Road a major road much closer?

PS
There are historical maps at
http://maps.southwark.gov.uk/connect...ical_Selection
for anyone having problems with the link. The 1915-20 survey shows the
station and other maps the before and after.

"Something along the lines of" doesn't mean "literally". In any case
is the road from Bodmin Road (now Parkway) Station to Bodmin called
"Bodmin Road"? The map I've looked at suggests not. I was under
the impression that the "road" suffix in GW parlance implied the
nearest point for a road connection to the tow/village named which is
what I was suggesting might have been appropriate in this case if
Southwark Park alone was considered insufficient.

I did fall into the same trap as Graeme Wall it would seem in assuming
the Oval was The Oval.

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

"Something along the lines of" doesn't mean "literally". In any case
is the road from Bodmin Road (now Parkway) Station to Bodmin called
"Bodmin Road"? The map I've looked at suggests not. I was under
the impression that the "road" suffix in GW parlance implied the
nearest point for a road connection to the tow/village named which is
what I was suggesting might have been appropriate in this case if
Southwark Park alone was considered insufficient.

I am sorry I misunderstood your rationale for the "Southwark Park Road"
name. I've read about that explanation in connection with Bodmin Road,
although that was miles from Bodmin in the middle of nowhere at a time
when I think it was by no means unusual for such a road (any main road!)
to the nearest "Big Town" to be known as "Big Town Road". Ditto Brixham
Road. I didn't realise it was an approach taken also in towns/cities
where stations were on a named road (let alone where the station wasn't
on the road with that name!) I've no idea what Londoners used to
stations like Spa Road, Old Kent Road, Queen's Road Peckham, and Denmark
Hill would've made of it.

I did fall into the same trap as Graeme Wall it would seem in assuming
the Oval was The Oval.

Perfectly understandable if one's never had cause to go to that area
(and for many years there were good reasons not to do so).
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On 17/03/2015 11:12, Robin wrote:
"Something along the lines of" doesn't mean "literally". In any case
is the road from Bodmin Road (now Parkway) Station to Bodmin called
"Bodmin Road"? The map I've looked at suggests not. I was under
the impression that the "road" suffix in GW parlance implied the
nearest point for a road connection to the tow/village named which is
what I was suggesting might have been appropriate in this case if
Southwark Park alone was considered insufficient.

I am sorry I misunderstood your rationale for the "Southwark Park Road"
name. I've read about that explanation in connection with Bodmin Road,
although that was miles from Bodmin in the middle of nowhere at a time
when I think it was by no means unusual for such a road (any main road!)
to the nearest "Big Town" to be known as "Big Town Road". Ditto Brixham
Road. I didn't realise it was an approach taken also in towns/cities
where stations were on a named road (let alone where the station wasn't
on the road with that name!) I've no idea what Londoners used to
stations like Spa Road, Old Kent Road, Queen's Road Peckham, and Denmark
Hill would've made of it.

I did fall into the same trap as Graeme Wall it would seem in assuming
the Oval was The Oval.

Perfectly understandable if one's never had cause to go to that area
(and for many years there were good reasons not to do so).


Still is if Millwall are playing at home.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read, substitute trains for rail.
Railway Miscellany at http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

In message , at 11:12:50 on Tue, 17 Mar
2015, Robin remarked:
I did fall into the same trap as Graeme Wall it would seem in assuming
the Oval was The Oval.

Perfectly understandable if one's never had cause to go to that area
(and for many years there were good reasons not to do so).

I walked round The Oval - on the outside because it was shut - last
week. First time I've been there for ages.

That's because I was half an hour early for a meeting, on account of
using a 2tph train most of the way, and not wanting to risk being late.
--
Roland Perry

Remains of Southwark Park station unearthed
 

On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:19:50 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote:

On 17/03/2015 11:12, Robin wrote:
"Something along the lines of" doesn't mean "literally". In any case
is the road from Bodmin Road (now Parkway) Station to Bodmin called
"Bodmin Road"? The map I've looked at suggests not. I was under
the impression that the "road" suffix in GW parlance implied the
nearest point for a road connection to the tow/village named which is
what I was suggesting might have been appropriate in this case if
Southwark Park alone was considered insufficient.

I am sorry I misunderstood your rationale for the "Southwark Park Road"
name. I've read about that explanation in connection with Bodmin Road,
although that was miles from Bodmin in the middle of nowhere at a time
when I think it was by no means unusual for such a road (any main road!)
to the nearest "Big Town" to be known as "Big Town Road". Ditto Brixham
Road. I didn't realise it was an approach taken also in towns/cities
where stations were on a named road (let alone where the station wasn't
on the road with that name!) I've no idea what Londoners used to
stations like Spa Road, Old Kent Road, Queen's Road Peckham, and Denmark
Hill would've made of it.

I did fall into the same trap as Graeme Wall it would seem in assuming
the Oval was The Oval.

Perfectly understandable if one's never had cause to go to that area
(and for many years there were good reasons not to do so).


Still is if Millwall are playing at home.

Millwall FC is fairly peaceful nowadays and with many families in the
crowd; any trouble tends to come from away fans looking for a bit of
bother with the yobs who either aren't there any more or are now
grandads taking the youngsters in with them. There is a category C+
game coming up against Charlton on Good Friday but much of that also
attaches to expected crowd numbers, there being plenty of spare seats
last night against Brighton but usually not a lot of spare room with
more local vistors.