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Arthur Figgis April 5th 15 08:23 PM

Chance to ride the Watford North curve
 
On 04/04/2015 11:58, Recliner wrote:

It's one reason why the Ongar line died, when Essex refused to stump
up more subsidy. I don't know if Herts and Bucks councils make any
contribution to TfL, or if the services into those counties are
financially self-supporting. Or does central government chip in on
behalf of the home counties?


Maybe Herts and Bucks councils could copy the recent strategy for
generating a profit from the Ongar line?


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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

[email protected] April 7th 15 10:17 AM

Chance to ride the Watford North curve
 
On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:34:45 +0100
Recliner wrote:
For specialised assets like S stock trains, which have no market other
than on LU, you'd be locked into a life-of-train lease of, say, 25


I'm sure someone would buy them if LU sold them now. Someone bought up some
old D stock to convert into DEMUs after all!

I suppose S stock could be converted to 3rd rail and let loose on southern
region somewhere. Unless its too wide.

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Spud



Recliner[_3_] April 7th 15 11:41 AM

Chance to ride the Watford North curve
 
On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 10:17:04 +0000 (UTC), d
wrote:

On Sat, 04 Apr 2015 11:34:45 +0100
Recliner wrote:
For specialised assets like S stock trains, which have no market other
than on LU, you'd be locked into a life-of-train lease of, say, 25


I'm sure someone would buy them if LU sold them now. Someone bought up some
old D stock to convert into DEMUs after all!


At little more than scrap prices.


I suppose S stock could be converted to 3rd rail and let loose on southern
region somewhere. Unless its too wide.


The width and the low top speed could both be show stoppers.

Recliner[_3_] April 7th 15 12:28 PM

Chance to ride the Watford North curve
 
On Sun, 5 Apr 2015 18:41:10 +0100, "Tim Roll-Pickering"
wrote:

Mizter T wrote:

However, without even having been anywhere near it I can still add to the
complaints about poor presentation of information. On the TfL service
status page, the information about replacement buses is all presented in
one solid block of text, with no formatting whatsoever - so it's a bit of
work just to see that there are four different replacement bus services (A
to D) running.


Actually it's five but that just proves your point.

It seems that in this brave new world, such special leaflets are a rarity
or just non-existent (see discussion about Christmas services and lack of
leaflet) as information provision is all on the web - unfortunately, often
it also seems that no-one is making an effort to present the information
with clarity on the web, as well as the lack of info on the ground.


It also doesn't help that WiFi provision at many stations is poor and very
bad on trains. And the webpage on the journey planner is slow and painful
because it seems to have stations and bus stops outside as separate entries
and then gets upset if a user hasn't been clear - but on an intermittant
connection the options don't load quickly enough. Not everyone has the TfL
apps downloaded on a smartphone with preset usage that makes it easy to zoom
in on what they need - and indeed weekend and holiday traffic is even less
likely to have them.


I've now uploaded a few pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/recliner/sets/72157651394935649/


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