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Paul Corfield wrote:

On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:19:49 +0100, Mizter T
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There is also
a risk for Tessa in that she has previously supported expansion at
Heathrow. That can be played back against her. There are also
problems for some of the candidates over their approach to road
crossings over the Thames in SE London. There's vocal opposition
there to what the Labour run Greenwich Council want. That could drain
votes away and cause issues with second preference votes from Green
Party supporters.


Didn't stop Boris winning though did it? Also Labour couldn't oust
the Tories in several outer London seats like Hendon, Golders Green
etc. They also dealt a catastropic blow to the Lib Dems in SW London.
We know Zac's stance on Heathrow and that's likely to play very well
in several boroughs out west. Failure to win in outer London will
kill Labour's chances.


While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority support
it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage you seem to
think it will be.

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority support
it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage you seem to
think it will be.


Have you got any statistics to back that up?

I'd like to know who actually wants any airport extension anywhere in the
south east other than the aiports themselves and airlines. London already has
4 major airports + city and southend which is more than any other european
capital. This whole manufacturered "crisis" is nothing more than vested
interests trying to increase their share prices with gullible politicians
falling for it hook and line.

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority support
it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage you seem to
think it will be.


Have you got any statistics to back that up?

I'd like to know who actually wants any airport extension anywhere in the
south east other than the aiports themselves and airlines. London already has
4 major airports + city and southend which is more than any other european
capital. This whole manufacturered "crisis" is nothing more than vested
interests trying to increase their share prices with gullible politicians
falling for it hook and line.


In less time than it took you to type that post, I found these and numerous
similar reports:

http://m.travelweekly.co.uk/Article....=news&id=53863

http://www.segro.com/Media/PressRele...hrow-expansion

http://www.bmmagazine.co.uk/news/uk-...row-expansion/

http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/n...681267.article
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:55:14 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority support
it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage you seem to
think it will be.


Have you got any statistics to back that up?

I'd like to know who actually wants any airport extension anywhere in the
south east other than the aiports themselves and airlines. London already

has
4 major airports + city and southend which is more than any other european
capital. This whole manufacturered "crisis" is nothing more than vested
interests trying to increase their share prices with gullible politicians
falling for it hook and line.


In less time than it took you to type that post, I found these and numerous
similar reports:


A load of partisan publictions stating dodgy unverified polls that have no link
to them. I realised that in less time than it took you to come up with your
feeble attempt at sarcasm.

But if you want to play that game:

http://www.airpor****ch.org.uk/2015/03/25402/

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:55:14 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority support
it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage you seem to
think it will be.

Have you got any statistics to back that up?

I'd like to know who actually wants any airport extension anywhere in the
south east other than the aiports themselves and airlines. London already

has
4 major airports + city and southend which is more than any other european
capital. This whole manufacturered "crisis" is nothing more than vested
interests trying to increase their share prices with gullible politicians
falling for it hook and line.


In less time than it took you to type that post, I found these and numerous
similar reports:


A load of partisan publictions stating dodgy unverified polls that have no link
to them. I realised that in less time than it took you to come up with your
feeble attempt at sarcasm.

But if you want to play that game:

http://www.airpor****ch.org.uk/2015/03/25402/


So, "Hundreds of people from London and the South East, including many
whose homes are threatened by a new runway, showed their determination that
the runway will not be built". Wow, is that the extent of the opposition?

In the meantime, here's something that might help you with your
debilitating phobia:
http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/...ith-confidence


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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
So, "Hundreds of people from London and the South East, including many
whose homes are threatened by a new runway, showed their determination that
the runway will not be built". Wow, is that the extent of the opposition?


Right because business websites with their anonymous unpublished surveys
are so unbiased arn't they.

In the meantime, here's something that might help you with your
debilitating phobia:
http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/...e/flying-with-
onfidence


Really, that all you got?

Go on, have another go. Even you're not that lame, perhaps you're just having
an off day?

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:04:33 +0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
wrote:
So, "Hundreds of people from London and the South East, including many
whose homes are threatened by a new runway, showed their determination that
the runway will not be built". Wow, is that the extent of the opposition?


Right because business websites with their anonymous unpublished surveys
are so unbiased arn't they.


Who said they were unbiased? Most of fhe business community favours
Heathrow, which is what those and numerous other reports would tell you if
you bothered to read them. Obviously people living under the new flight
paths or the small number who'd lose their homes would be very much against
Heathrow expansion. And, guess what, the smaller equivalent group of people
living near Gatwick would object to a new runway there, too.


In the meantime, here's something that might help you with your
debilitating phobia:
http://www.britishairways.com/en-gb/...e/flying-with-
onfidence


Really, that all you got?

Go on, have another go. Even you're not that lame, perhaps you're just having
an off day?


You really need help to get over your fear of flying. I'm just trying to
help you.

I'm not even going to bother trying to explain to you again what a hub
airport is till you've next taken a flight. Just how many years is it since
you last dared to set foot on a plane?
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 17:16:34 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
"Peter Smyth" wrote:
While there are certainly many vociferous opponents of Heathrow
expansion in West London, opinion polls have shown the majority
support it so I don't think being anti-Heathrow is the advantage
you seem to think it will be.


Have you got any statistics to back that up?

I'd like to know who actually wants any airport extension anywhere in
the south east other than the aiports themselves and airlines. London
already has 4 major airports + city and southend which is more than
any other european capital. This whole manufacturered "crisis" is
nothing more than vested interests trying to increase their share
prices with gullible politicians falling for it hook and line.


http://www.populus.co.uk/Poll/Heathr...-Borough-Poll/


A telephone poll. Hardly the most reliable method given it tends to select
a certain demographic who are home doing nothing during the day.

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