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July 9th 15, 07:30 AM
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Canopy design
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. |
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July 9th 15, 07:46 AM
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Canopy design
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora
wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Guy Gorton |
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July 9th 15, 07:54 AM
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Canopy design
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:46:30 +0100, Guy Gorton
wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot. Thank you. That I had not understood. A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Did the new barge board fit with traditional existing GW GC station features? I have found some of the platform rebuilds on your route disappointing. |
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July 9th 15, 09:11 AM
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Canopy design
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:54:14 +0100, e27002 aurora
wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:46:30 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot. Thank you. That I had not understood. A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Did the new barge board fit with traditional existing GW GC station features? I have found some of the platform rebuilds on your route disappointing. Yes, a good match. Guy Gorton |
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July 9th 15, 04:25 PM
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:54:14 +0100, e27002 aurora
wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:46:30 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot. Thank you. That I had not understood. A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Did the new barge board fit with traditional existing GW GC station features? I have found some of the platform rebuilds on your route disappointing. You set my curiosity going, so I have been to the station this afternoon, with camera, and all is not quite what it seems.! The old and the new look the same, but they are not. The original is made of seperate vertical planks of wood, closely fitted together above the round hole we are familiar with and with a gap of about half an inch in the lowest part. There are a few places where the upper part is sufficiently separated to let daylight through. The new version is in wide pieces with a groove milled out above the aforementioned hole so that it looks as if it is separate planks. About 8 imitation planks per piece. And that is not all ! I am pretty certain that the new one is all white plastic, not wood. I think that credit is due to NR and Chiltern for doing an excellent imitation which certainly preserves the GW/GC look of the station. Nothing to do with canopies but did you know that last Wednesday was the 10th anniversary of the collapse of the Tesco tunnel here in Gerrads Cross, bringing the railway to a complete halt?. Guy Gorton |
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July 9th 15, 04:37 PM
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 17:25:10 +0100, Guy Gorton
wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:54:14 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:46:30 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot. Thank you. That I had not understood. A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Did the new barge board fit with traditional existing GW GC station features? I have found some of the platform rebuilds on your route disappointing. You set my curiosity going, so I have been to the station this afternoon, with camera, and all is not quite what it seems.! The old and the new look the same, but they are not. The original is made of seperate vertical planks of wood, closely fitted together above the round hole we are familiar with and with a gap of about half an inch in the lowest part. There are a few places where the upper part is sufficiently separated to let daylight through. The new version is in wide pieces with a groove milled out above the aforementioned hole so that it looks as if it is separate planks. About 8 imitation planks per piece. And that is not all ! I am pretty certain that the new one is all white plastic, not wood. I think that credit is due to NR and Chiltern for doing an excellent imitation which certainly preserves the GW/GC look of the station. Agreed, it is reassuring to know that they care. Nothing to do with canopies but did you know that last Wednesday was the 10th anniversary of the collapse of the Tesco tunnel here in Gerrads Cross, bringing the railway to a complete halt? Ten years already!!! |
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July 9th 15, 07:42 PM
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Guy Gorton wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:54:14 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:46:30 +0100, Guy Gorton wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 08:30:16 +0100, e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 06:05:53 +0100, Basil Jet wrote: What is the name of the design feature often found on canopy edges, whereby vertical planks of wood are separated by notches which have a circular hole at the top of the notch? You can see it in the picture below, which is of Borough Green & Wrotham station. Does it have a functional significance, for instance does it reduce the turbulence caused by 100 mph vehicles going past in some way, or was it just a fashion which for some reason was copied to an astonishing extent on railways but nowhere else? AFIK, purely decorative. There were some beautiful examples on the Barnet Branch of the TfL Northern Line. It has been thirty years since I was last there, so they may have gone. Not entirely decorative, I think, although each railway had its own distinctive design. Barge boards serve a practical purpose wherever they are found, perhaps on your house. On my house, they are of plastic and very plain. I suggest a practical reason for the pointed design and vertical alignment of the grain of the wood was to guide rain to many points to drip on to platforms and passengers rather than having a mini-torrent at some unpredictable spot. Thank you. That I had not understood. A new canopy has been constructed in recent years at my local station which is equipped with traditional barge board. Did the new barge board fit with traditional existing GW GC station features? I have found some of the platform rebuilds on your route disappointing. You set my curiosity going, so I have been to the station this afternoon, with camera, and all is not quite what it seems.! The old and the new look the same, but they are not. The original is made of seperate vertical planks of wood, closely fitted together above the round hole we are familiar with and with a gap of about half an inch in the lowest part. There are a few places where the upper part is sufficiently separated to let daylight through. The new version is in wide pieces with a groove milled out above the aforementioned hole so that it looks as if it is separate planks. About 8 imitation planks per piece. And that is not all ! I am pretty certain that the new one is all white plastic, not wood. I think that credit is due to NR and Chiltern for doing an excellent imitation which certainly preserves the GW/GC look of the station. Very interesting. The modern version is presumably both cheaper and maintenance-free. Nothing to do with canopies but did you know that last Wednesday was the 10th anniversary of the collapse of the Tesco tunnel here in Gerrads Cross, bringing the railway to a complete halt?. Thanks for the reminder, I'd have thought it was longer. |
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