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Jarle Hammen Knudsen November 18th 15 12:45 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
Quote:

Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you’d like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.

https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...es-what-to-do/

Scott November 18th 15 12:56 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:45:41 +0100, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
wrote:

Quote:

Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you’d like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.

https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...es-what-to-do/


Just in London or does it affect other parts of the UK also?

Roland Perry November 18th 15 01:10 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
In message , at 13:56:05 on
Wed, 18 Nov 2015, Scott remarked:
Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you’d like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.

https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...es-what-to-do/


Just in London or does it affect other parts of the UK also?


It'll be the whole country, but London gives the impression of having a
wider range of secretive public bodies - with a capability to affect
people's daily lives - than most of the rest of the country.

If these bodies have more power (the Mayoral office for example, quite
independent from any particular incumbent) then perhaps they should also
be more transparent - rather than less.
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Roland Perry

[email protected] November 18th 15 01:35 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
In article ,
(Scott) wrote:

On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:45:41 +0100, Jarle Hammen Knudsen
wrote:

Quote:

Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you’d like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.


https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...-information-i
s-under-threat-heres-what-to-do/

Just in London or does it affect other parts of the UK also?


Whole UK.

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Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] November 18th 15 03:31 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:45:41 +0100
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
Quote:

Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you’d like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.

https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...formation-is-u
der-threat-heres-what-to-do/


The picture of graffiti gave it that whining right-on student activist look so
I couldn't be bothered to read any further. A rule of thumb I use is that if
students are behind a campaign they've almost certainly got it arse about face.

--
Spud


John Ray[_4_] November 18th 15 05:02 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

The picture of graffiti gave it that whining right-on student activist look so
I couldn't be bothered to read any further. A rule of thumb I use is that if
students are behind a campaign they've almost certainly got it arse about face.


Is freedom of information so unimportant to you? What if, for example,
through inaction, we find that sites like realtime trains are unable
to operate in future? Unlikely, I hope, but perhaps not impossible.

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John Ray

Offramp November 18th 15 09:56 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
What did we do before the FOI Act?

Theo Markettos November 18th 15 10:33 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
John Ray wrote:
Is freedom of information so unimportant to you? What if, for example,
through inaction, we find that sites like realtime trains are unable
to operate in future? Unlikely, I hope, but perhaps not impossible.


That's Open Data, which is different from FOI. Open Data is about
authorities publishing datasets that they choose to release. FOI is about
the public's to ask (potentially awkward) questions.

Theo

Robin[_4_] November 18th 15 10:36 PM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
Quote:

Proposed changes, currently under discussion by a cross-party
government commission, could make it much harder for to access
information.

You have until 20 November if you'd like to voice your opposition to
these restraints.

https://www.mysociety.org/2015/11/10...es-what-to-do/


I suppose it is too much to hope that people might first read the "call
for evidence" which that site does not even mention before signing a
petition to pre-emptively argue we live in the best possible of all
worlds and can afford to meet all the FoIA requests possible under a
system invented when the economy was booming and that nice Mr Brown had
abolished busts.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...l-for-evidence

As regards RealTime Trains, AIUI that rests not on FoI but on "open
data" which the current government is continuing to push as a "good
thing".

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Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid



[email protected] November 19th 15 08:20 AM

Access to Freedom of Information is under threat
 
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 18:02:44 +0000
John Ray wrote:
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC), d wrote:

The picture of graffiti gave it that whining right-on student activist look

so
I couldn't be bothered to read any further. A rule of thumb I use is that if
students are behind a campaign they've almost certainly got it arse about

face.

Is freedom of information so unimportant to you? What if, for example,


No. What is important to me is getting the facts straight. And kids generally
don't. They're usually all hot air and little insight.

through inaction, we find that sites like realtime trains are unable
to operate in future? Unlikely, I hope, but perhaps not impossible.


Never even heard of that site. But since governments seem quite happy for
flightradar24 to exist then I doubt there'll be an issue with trains even
if rules are tightened.

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Spud



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