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Boltar February 23rd 04 10:22 AM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE being
extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put forward plenty
of times in the past. Was this just people chucking ideas about or was/is
there a real project for this currently on hold?

B2003

TheOneKEA February 23rd 04 02:09 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
(Boltar) wrote in message . com...
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE being
extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put forward plenty
of times in the past. Was this just people chucking ideas about or was/is
there a real project for this currently on hold?

B2003


I think this was a resurrected fragment of the really really big
Northern Heights project that would have had a third branch of the
Northern Line from Finsbury Park to Alexandra Palace, calling at
Highgate on the High Barnet branch, with a double-tracked supersized
crossover from East Finchley, through MHE to Edgware and hence to
Bushey Heath.

IIRC somebody on thsi newsgroup (I want to say Clive) said that there
were rumours of pushing onward from MHE in one fashion or another.

Brad

Lawrence Myers February 23rd 04 09:01 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
Boltar wrote:
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE being
extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put forward
plenty of times in the past. Was this just people chucking ideas
about or was/is there a real project for this currently on hold?

B2003


As I remember it, this was purely a proposal by the loacal authority, LB of
Barnet. LU immediately refuted the idea, claiming it had not done the
necessary research, and that most of the original track had been built over.
I don't think that it was ever a real starter.

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Proctor46 February 23rd 04 09:22 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
Subject: Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?

it would help you if you can see a copy of the Tube map for 1937.........p46

Marratxi February 24th 04 08:34 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 

"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message
...
Boltar wrote:
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE being
extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put forward
plenty of times in the past. Was this just people chucking ideas
about or was/is there a real project for this currently on hold?

B2003


As I remember it, this was purely a proposal by the loacal authority, LB

of
Barnet. LU immediately refuted the idea, claiming it had not done the
necessary research, and that most of the original track had been built

over.
I don't think that it was ever a real starter.

--
Lawrence Myers
Remove numbers,if present, from address to reply.

I was at the London Transport Museum at Covent Garden today and their tube
train on display has the destination Bushey Heath !!! Can post photo on
alt.binaries.pictures.rail if wanted.
Cheerz,
Baz



Lawrence Myers February 24th 04 09:41 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
Marratxi wrote:
"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message
...
Boltar wrote:
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE
being extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put
forward plenty of times in the past. Was this just people chucking
ideas about or was/is there a real project for this currently on
hold?

B2003


As I remember it, this was purely a proposal by the loacal
authority, LB of Barnet. LU immediately refuted the idea, claiming
it had not done the necessary research, and that most of the
original track had been built over. I don't think that it was ever a
real starter.

--
Lawrence Myers
Remove numbers,if present, from address to reply.

I was at the London Transport Museum at Covent Garden today and their
tube train on display has the destination Bushey Heath !!! Can post
photo on alt.binaries.pictures.rail if wanted.
Cheerz,
Baz


That was something completely different. In late 1930's there was a plan to
extend Edgware Branch northward to Elstree & Bushey Heath. Prelimiary
building work took place in Edgware and bridge butresses are still visible
from A41. This was abandoned on outbreak of WWII, and never resurrected.

The route being discussed here is the old goods line (orginally passenger)
from Mill Hill East, past Mill Hill (The Hale) to a separate station in
Edgware. It went past the site of the present Copthall Stadium.



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Lawrence Myers
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Bill Hayles February 25th 04 11:02 AM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:34:50 -0000, "Marratxi"
wrote:

I was at the London Transport Museum at Covent Garden today and their tube
train on display has the destination Bushey Heath !!! Can post photo on
alt.binaries.pictures.rail if wanted.


In Jim Blake's book "Northern Wastes", essential reading for anybody
interested in this topic, there is a picture of a 1938 tube stock
train at Highgate showing Bushey Heath - photographed in 1987.

The destination plates for 1938 stock were made before the extension
was abandoned and never changed - most abandoned extensions could be
displayed it required.


--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com

Ben Nunn February 25th 04 12:38 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was Bill Hayles
), in message
who said:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 21:34:50 -0000, "Marratxi"
wrote:

I was at the London Transport Museum at Covent Garden today and
their tube train on display has the destination Bushey Heath !!! Can
post photo on alt.binaries.pictures.rail if wanted.


In Jim Blake's book "Northern Wastes", essential reading for anybody
interested in this topic, there is a picture of a 1938 tube stock
train at Highgate showing Bushey Heath - photographed in 1987.

The destination plates for 1938 stock were made before the extension
was abandoned and never changed - most abandoned extensions could be
displayed it required.



Further to this, I can also recommend Jim's annual walking tours of the
'Northern Heights' branches.

Very enlightening. And, ahem, ironic.

BTN



Jeremy Parker February 25th 04 01:03 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
I think this idea arose from the possible need for Barnet Football
Club to relocate to Copthall Stadium, preferably at somebody else's
expense. The Football Club saga goes on (don't ask) but not, for
the moment, at Copthall

Jeremy Parker

"Boltar" wrote in message
om...
I remember a few years back there was talk of the line from MHE

being
extended to Copthall Stadium. Mind you , this has been put forward

plenty
of times in the past. Was this just people chucking ideas about or

was/is
there a real project for this currently on hold?

B2003




Alistair Bell February 25th 04 05:04 PM

Whatever happened to the Mill Hill East extension?
 
"Lawrence Myers" wrote in message ...

That was something completely different. In late 1930's there was a plan to
extend Edgware Branch northward to Elstree & Bushey Heath. Prelimiary
building work took place in Edgware and bridge butresses are still visible
from A41. This was abandoned on outbreak of WWII, and never resurrected.

The route being discussed here is the old goods line (orginally passenger)
from Mill Hill East, past Mill Hill (The Hale) to a separate station in
Edgware. It went past the site of the present Copthall Stadium.


A separate station in Edgware? I'm pretty sure it was intended to be
the same station in Edgware, with a junction between the two lines
immediately south-east of the station. Two of the platforms at Edgware
station are obviously placed to permit extension of the line under the
street, and you can (I think) still see the route of the line to Mill
Hill curving off to the left as you leave the station on the existing
Northern Line.

The Northern Line was roughly planned to have run from Bushey Heath to
Edgware, bifurcated into two routes from there to Camden Town, joined
up there, bifurcated again into two routes from there to Kennington,
and joined up again for the run to Morden. Oh, and there would have
been a route from Moorgate to High Barnet via Finsbury Park that
paralleled the Northern Line between East Finchley and Finchley
Central.

Imagine Celia: "This station is Edgware. This train terminates at
Kennington via Finchley Central and Charing Cross. Change here for the
Golders Green branch. The next station is Mill Hill (The Hale)."


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