Question about Contactless
 

Does one need to register their contactless cards on TfL's website in
order to have capped weekly and monthly fares?

Cheers

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On 31.01.16 17:48, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:43:17 +0000, "
wrote:

Does one need to register their contactless cards on TfL's website in
order to have capped weekly and monthly fares?

No you don't. However you will only have very limited access to
journey info and won't be able to complete "incomplete journeys" on
line. I think there are genuine benefits from having cards registered
on a TfL account.

There is only daily and weekly capping at present. There are no
monthly (or longer period) caps.

Many thanks for that.

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

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wrote in message ...
On 31.01.16 17:48, Paul Corfield wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:43:17 +0000, "
wrote:

Does one need to register their contactless cards on TfL's website in
order to have capped weekly and monthly fares?

No you don't. However you will only have very limited access to
journey info and won't be able to complete "incomplete journeys" on
line. I think there are genuine benefits from having cards registered
on a TfL account.

There is only daily and weekly capping at present. There are no
monthly (or longer period) caps.

Many thanks for that.

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the vast
majority of people

tim

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"tim....." wrote

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the vast
majority of people

I used to be paid 13 times a year, ie a 4-week, 28 day month starting on a
Monday (a calendar was supplied)

Would this suit better ?


--
Mike D

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"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
...

"tim....." wrote

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the vast
majority of people

I used to be paid 13 times a year, ie a 4-week, 28 day month starting on a
Monday (a calendar was supplied)

Would this suit better ?

the point is that "monthly" only worse advantageously if you arrange it so
that you don't buy a ST for your two week break in the summer and 2 weeks
off at Xmas.

You can't do that if you don't choose your own start of month

tim

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"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
...

"tim....." wrote

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the vast
majority of people

I used to be paid 13 times a year, ie a 4-week, 28 day month starting on
a Monday (a calendar was supplied)

Would this suit better ?

the point is that "monthly" only worse advantageously if you arrange it so

um, "works"

sorry

tim

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 21:31:13 -0000, "Michael R N Dolbear"
wrote:


"tim....." wrote

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the vast
majority of people

I used to be paid 13 times a year, ie a 4-week, 28 day month starting on a
Monday (a calendar was supplied)

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!
Which reminds me of an entirely OT story. Many,many years ago when my
employer wanted to change junior office staff from a weekly cheque to
monthly payment, it had to recognise that said staff used to rush off
to their bank at lunchtime and cash the weekly cheque. Many would be
in real trouble if they had to do without a payment until the end of
the month. So the monthly cheque would be in advance but because of
the UK's strange tax year, it woud be on the 5th of the month! My
company pension is still paid that way 65 years later.
Which just goes to show the word "monthly" can have a variety of
meanings!

Guy Gorton

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On 02/02/2016 19:30, tim..... wrote:

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Michael R N Dolbear" wrote in message
...

"tim....." wrote

Any projected ETA on monthly caps?

The problem with monthly caps is that it's almost certainly going to be
based on a defined month of 1st-31st, which isn't going to suit the
vast majority of people

I used to be paid 13 times a year, ie a 4-week, 28 day month starting
on a Monday (a calendar was supplied)

Would this suit better ?

the point is that "monthly" only worse advantageously if you arrange
it so

um, "works"


Not quite - obviously it works most advantageously if you can arrange it
so, but taking a zone 1-3 fare as an example and 52 weeks and 12 months
in a year:

Yearly cost buying 52 weeks - 12 months - 1 year = £1976 - £1752 - £1520
Optimised (48 weeks, 11 months, 1 year) = £1824 - £1606 - £1520

So, obviously if you can optimise it monthly is better as £1606 £1824,
but even if you don't £1752 is still £1824 but not by as much.

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On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but it
is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work on a
calendar monthly schedule.

Neil
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In message , Neil Williams
writes
On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but it
is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work on a
calendar monthly schedule.

Neil

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid on
a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each leap
year in one company she worked for.
--
Bryan Morris
Public Key http://www.pgp.uk.demon.net - 0xCC6237E9

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In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message , Neil Williams
writes
On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but it
is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work on a
calendar monthly schedule.

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid
on a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each
leap year in one company she worked for.

Was she paid less in February than in other months?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In message ,
writes
In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message , Neil Williams
writes
On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but it
is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work on a
calendar monthly schedule.

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid
on a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each
leap year in one company she worked for.

Was she paid less in February than in other months?


Nope the same each month i.e. yearly salary divided by 12 but as in a
leap year there are 366 days rather than 365 she got an extra days pay
then
--
Bryan Morris
Public Key http://www.pgp.uk.demon.net - 0xCC6237E9

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In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message ,
writes
In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message , Neil Williams
writes
On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but
it is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work
on a calendar monthly schedule.

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid
on a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each
leap year in one company she worked for.

Was she paid less in February than in other months?

Nope the same each month i.e. yearly salary divided by 12 but as in a
leap year there are 366 days rather than 365 she got an extra days
pay then

So I was diddled for every leap year after 1976!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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In message ,
writes
In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message ,
writes
In article , ine (Bryan
Morris) wrote:

In message , Neil Williams
writes
On 2016-02-03 08:59:40 +0000, Guy Gorton said:

As is the state pension but that is probably not very relevant to
commuters!

The term for it is "lunar monthly". Plenty of businesses do it, but
it is a nuisance as most large expenses (mortgage payment etc) work
on a calendar monthly schedule.

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid
on a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each
leap year in one company she worked for.

Was she paid less in February than in other months?

Nope the same each month i.e. yearly salary divided by 12 but as in a
leap year there are 366 days rather than 365 she got an extra days
pay then

So I was diddled for every leap year after 1976!


Yep. If you're paid daily or weekly the extra day in a leap year makes
no difference but if monthly you work one day free in a leap year
--
Bryan Morris
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Bryan Morris wrote:

Yep. If you're paid daily or weekly the extra day in a leap year
makes no difference but if monthly you work one day free in a leap
year

However if you work Monday - Friday, you can argue that there are only
261 weekdays this year, the same number as last year (although in 2020
there will be 262).

Peter Smyth

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In article , (Peter Smyth)
wrote:

Bryan Morris wrote:

Yep. If you're paid daily or weekly the extra day in a leap year
makes no difference but if monthly you work one day free in a leap
year

However if you work Monday - Friday, you can argue that there are only
261 weekdays this year, the same number as last year (although in 2020
there will be 262).

Rather confirming that extra pay in leap years is a bit daft.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

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On 2016-02-03 15:28:59 +0000, Bryan Morris said:

2016 is of course a leap year, I recall my (late) mother who was paid
on a monthly basis also being paid for an extra day in February each
leap year in one company she worked for.

That might of course depend on if you are salaried or waged. If
salaried, you simply get your annual salary divided by the number of
pay periods - it isn't "per day" or "per hour" or anything like that.

Neil
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