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[email protected] March 24th 16 08:35 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
Anyone know what excuse the trained chimps are using this week for the strike?
It was about doors, now apparently its about management practices. Or is it
about the price of coffee in the canteen or just for an extra day off work over
the bank holiday?

--
Spud


Mizter T March 24th 16 09:48 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/

---quote---
RMT confirms strike dates after overwhelming vote on Piccadilly Line
over comprehensive breakdown in industrial relations.
[...]
The ballot for action was called after a prolonged period of industrial
problems on the line – some of which have been directly related to
serious underlying issues with the aging Piccadilly Line fleet. Those
issues have left drivers in a vulnerable position and have been used by
management as a tool to harass and threaten members through misuse of
the disciplinary procedure. There has also been an appalling lack of
consistency by local management when it comes to addressing the
long-running issues impacting on the Piccadilly Line and which RMT, as
the main driver’s union, has raised repeatedly over a number of years.
[...]
---/quote---

[email protected] March 24th 16 10:04 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/


At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.

--
Spud



Mizter T March 24th 16 10:12 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 

On 24/03/2016 11:04, d wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/


At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.


You're so big and clever aren't you, with all your tough words and sad
attempt at menace.

Graham Murray March 24th 16 10:58 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
Mizter T writes:

The ballot for action was called after a prolonged period of
industrial problems on the line – some of which have been directly
related to serious underlying issues with the aging Piccadilly Line
fleet. Those issues have left drivers in a vulnerable position


In what way are the drivers in a vulnerable position? Are they afraid
that angry passengers are going to break into their cab and assault
them?

[email protected] March 24th 16 11:03 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:12:32 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
On 24/03/2016 11:04, d wrote:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:

http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/

At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.


You're so big and clever aren't you, with all your tough words and sad
attempt at menace.


So hoping for a particular outcome between two unspecified 3rd parties is being
menacing is it? What a sheltered upbringing you must have had.

--
Spud


eastender[_5_] March 24th 16 12:42 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 2016-03-24 11:04:23 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/


At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.



My brother in law is a Piccadilly Line driver. How about you post your
real name in your posts. But cowards never do.


[email protected] March 24th 16 12:59 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:42:52 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-03-24 11:04:23 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:

http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/

At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.



My brother in law is a Piccadilly Line driver. How about you post your
real name in your posts. But cowards never do.


LOL :) So "eastender" is your real name and
is your real email
address is it? Irony, much? :)

FWIW last time the ****s decided it would be a good idea to picket outside
Arnos Grove with theit union banners they got a mouthful from me. And half a
dozen other people. They don't do it anymore. Strange that.

Oh, and my real name is out there for anyone who can be arsed to look hard
enough.

--
Spud


Jarle Hammen Knudsen March 24th 16 02:41 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:42:52 +0000, eastender
wrote:

On 2016-03-24 11:04:23 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:
http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/


At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.



My brother in law is a Piccadilly Line driver. How about you post your
real name in your posts. But cowards never do.


What's your real name?

--
jhk

eastender[_5_] March 24th 16 02:46 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 2016-03-24 13:59:37 +0000, d said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 13:42:52 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-03-24 11:04:23 +0000,
d said:

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 10:48:34 +0000
Mizter T wrote:

http://www.rmt.org.uk/news/rmt-confirms-piccadilly-line-strike-dates090316/

At least they're consistent with their lies. Wonder what the real reason is.
Probably didn't get some deal they were hoping for. Still, one can only
hope that one day some of these ****s gets their teeth knocked out by some
passenger who's had his plans ****ed up once to often.



My brother in law is a Piccadilly Line driver. How about you post your
real name in your posts. But cowards never do.


LOL :) So "eastender" is your real name and
is your real email
address is it? Irony, much? :)

FWIW last time the ****s decided it would be a good idea to picket outside
Arnos Grove with theit union banners they got a mouthful from me. And half a
dozen other people. They don't do it anymore. Strange that.

Oh, and my real name is out there for anyone who can be arsed to look hard
enough.


I'm not the one hiding behind foul-mouthed anti-union hate speech.
That'll be you.



Offramp March 24th 16 08:08 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
I was surprised at how much disruption the Piccadilly Line strike caused. Thursday has been very busy all night everywhere.

[email protected] March 25th 16 11:53 AM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:46:23 +0000
eastender wrote:
On 2016-03-24 13:59:37 +0000, d said:
FWIW last time the ****s decided it would be a good idea to picket outside
Arnos Grove with theit union banners they got a mouthful from me. And half a
dozen other people. They don't do it anymore. Strange that.

Oh, and my real name is out there for anyone who can be arsed to look hard
enough.


I'm not the one hiding behind foul-mouthed anti-union hate speech.
That'll be you.


Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.

As for the RMT - they've gone beyond being a union, they're a politically
motivated blackmail group and need to be brought to heal or shut down
altogether.

--
Spud


[email protected] March 25th 16 01:46 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 24.03.16 11:58, Graham Murray wrote:
Mizter T writes:

The ballot for action was called after a prolonged period of
industrial problems on the line – some of which have been directly
related to serious underlying issues with the aging Piccadilly Line
fleet. Those issues have left drivers in a vulnerable position


In what way are the drivers in a vulnerable position? Are they afraid
that angry passengers are going to break into their cab and assault
them?


I wonder if it is actually over plans to introduce the NT4L, thus
negating the need for drivers.

Does a similar plan exist for the Bakerloo?

[email protected] March 25th 16 03:11 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.


That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....
--
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
=================================

Offramp March 25th 16 06:12 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
*heel

eastender[_5_] March 25th 16 06:23 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 2016-03-25 19:12:15 +0000, Offramp said:

*heel


He certainly is.


[email protected] March 25th 16 07:28 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.


That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....


Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.

--
Spud


Recliner[_3_] March 25th 16 08:13 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
wrote:
On 24.03.16 11:58, Graham Murray wrote:
Mizter T writes:

The ballot for action was called after a prolonged period of
industrial problems on the line – some of which have been directly
related to serious underlying issues with the aging Piccadilly Line
fleet. Those issues have left drivers in a vulnerable position


In what way are the drivers in a vulnerable position? Are they afraid
that angry passengers are going to break into their cab and assault
them?


I wonder if it is actually over plans to introduce the NT4L, thus
negating the need for drivers.

Does a similar plan exist for the Bakerloo?


Yes, and the Central and the Drain. The Bakerloo 72TS is even more
knackered than the 73TS.


[email protected] March 25th 16 10:09 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 25.03.16 21:13, Recliner wrote:
wrote:
On 24.03.16 11:58, Graham Murray wrote:
Mizter T writes:

The ballot for action was called after a prolonged period of
industrial problems on the line – some of which have been directly
related to serious underlying issues with the aging Piccadilly Line
fleet. Those issues have left drivers in a vulnerable position

In what way are the drivers in a vulnerable position? Are they afraid
that angry passengers are going to break into their cab and assault
them?


I wonder if it is actually over plans to introduce the NT4L, thus
negating the need for drivers.

Does a similar plan exist for the Bakerloo?


Yes, and the Central and the Drain. The Bakerloo 72TS is even more
knackered than the 73TS.

Yes, I was recently on a 72TS. You could hear the gears whining.

BTW, I noticed on the escalators at Piccadilly Circus that the "Stand on
the Right" and "Hold the Handrail" signs were on electronic displays,
rather than the simple blue signs. Why did they do that and what else
could those electronic signs display?

[email protected] March 25th 16 11:13 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
In article , () wrote:

BTW, I noticed on the escalators at Piccadilly Circus that the "Stand
on the Right" and "Hold the Handrail" signs were on electronic
displays, rather than the simple blue signs. Why did they do that and
what else could those electronic signs display?


A follow-on to Holborn for a trial of standing only on escalators in peak
hours?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] March 26th 16 05:39 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Friday, 25 March 2016 20:28:16 UTC, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.


That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....


Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.


OK, I'll bite. Prove that my statement was wrong.
--
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
=================================


Basil Jet[_4_] March 26th 16 06:38 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 2016\03\25 20:28, d wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.


That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....


Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.


Dead people don't post their real names either. Ergo Joyce Whitchurch is
a dead person, but he's still better at logic than spud!

[email protected] March 26th 16 08:01 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 20:28:16 UTC, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.

That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....


Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.


OK, I'll bite. Prove that my statement was wrong.


Prove a negative? Nice try. How about you prove it was right.

--
Spud



[email protected] March 26th 16 08:03 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:38:24 +0000
Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\03\25 20:28, d wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.

That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....


Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.


Dead people don't post their real names either. Ergo Joyce Whitchurch is
a dead person, but he's still better at logic than spud!


So thats 2 of you that can't follow simple logic in a thread. But with
you it comes as no surprise frankly.

--
Spud


[email protected] March 27th 16 02:43 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Saturday, 26 March 2016 21:01:58 UTC, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 20:28:16 UTC, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.

That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....

Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.


OK, I'll bite. Prove that my statement was wrong.


Prove a negative? Nice try. How about you prove it was right.


Well, it's Easter Day, so in the spirit of Christian charity, I'll summarise the discussion so far and analyse the argument:

eastender to Spud: "How about you post your real name in your posts. But cowards never do."

Spud to eastender: "You said cowards don't post their real names. Ergo you're a coward."

Me to Spud: "That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho...."

Let us assume that Spud's initial assertion is correct, and that "cowards don't post their real names". Let us further assume that "eastender" is not the real name of the entity posting as "eastender". Does it therefore follow that eastender is a coward?

To answer that question we must consider whether the group of posters who don't use their real names is solely composed of cowards, or whether it could include both cowards and heroic, fearless, laugh-in-the-face-of-danger types. There is no evidence in the thread so far to justify exclusion of the heroic types. The only valid conclusion is that eastender /might/ be a coward or /might/ be a hero. It cannot follow that eastender /must/ be a coward..

But do please have a go at proving me wrong. Bear in mind that you may thereafter need to prove that your own name really is Spud....
--
Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
=================================

eastender[_5_] March 27th 16 06:58 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On 2016-03-27 14:43:50 +0000, said:

On Saturday, 26 March 2016 21:01:58 UTC, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 20:28:16 UTC, wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
joyce.whitchurch wrote:
On Friday, 25 March 2016 12:53:07 UTC, wrote:

Sorry, its too late to add caveats. You said cowards don't post their real
names. Ergo you're a coward.

That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho....

Hey ho, you're ****ing useless at logic.

OK, I'll bite. Prove that my statement was wrong.


Prove a negative? Nice try. How about you prove it was right.


Well, it's Easter Day, so in the spirit of Christian charity, I'll
summarise the discussion so far and analyse the argument:

eastender to Spud: "How about you post your real name in your posts.
But cowards never do."

Spud to eastender: "You said cowards don't post their real names. Ergo
you're a coward."

Me to Spud: "That is not actually a logical conclusion but hey, ho...."

Let us assume that Spud's initial assertion is correct, and that
"cowards don't post their real names". Let us further assume that
"eastender" is not the real name of the entity posting as "eastender".
Does it therefore follow that eastender is a coward?

To answer that question we must consider whether the group of posters
who don't use their real names is solely composed of cowards, or
whether it could include both cowards and heroic, fearless,
laugh-in-the-face-of-danger types. There is no evidence in the thread
so far to justify exclusion of the heroic types. The only valid
conclusion is that eastender /might/ be a coward or /might/ be a hero.
It cannot follow that eastender /must/ be a coward.

But do please have a go at proving me wrong. Bear in mind that you may
thereafter need to prove that your own name really is Spud....


Nice one!



[email protected] March 27th 16 07:56 PM

Piccadilly line strike
 
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 19:58:43 +0100
eastender wrote:
Nice one!


Oh look, Boo Boo's turned up. Bless.

Couldn't think of a riposte yourself?

--
Spud



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