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May 5th 16 09:09 AM

Picc T5 not disabled accessible from platform

In article
-september.
org, (Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
Given T5 was only opened relatively recently I'm wondering what genius
decided that NOT making the train floor and platform heights the same
was a good idea? The platform isn't curved AFAIR so I don't understand
why they didn't do it.

I'm guessing it must lack the platform hump that allows the T4 platform to
claim to be accessible. But, like you, I was surprised that even modern
Tube platforms don't have level access for the full platform length.

I was there yesterday and couldn't help but notice the contrast with the
excellent alignment of the train floors and platforms on the HEx and HCon
trains and platforms. There's no difference in floor level and almost no
gap. Obviously it helps that the platforms are straight, as are the
Heathrow Tube platforms.

I wonder if the grand plan with the Picc platforms is to introduce lower
floor trains (NTfL) that will provide a long term solution, rather than
temporarily raising some platforms? Short humps provide a temporary
solution in the meantime. This has been the method adopted with the SSR,
where the lower-floored S stock solves the problem, though as you keep
pointing out, it also means you get gaps with curved platforms, such as at
Finchley Road (where a lot of people dash across the platform to catch a
connecting train).

Is NTfL going to have lower floors though? They are pretty low on tube stock
already, with very little space below the solebar to make floors lower.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Basil Jet[_4_]

May 5th 16 12:57 PM

Picc T5 not disabled accessible from platform

On 2016\05\05 10:09, wrote:
In article
-september.
org, (Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
Given T5 was only opened relatively recently I'm wondering what genius
decided that NOT making the train floor and platform heights the same
was a good idea? The platform isn't curved AFAIR so I don't understand
why they didn't do it.

I'm guessing it must lack the platform hump that allows the T4 platform to
claim to be accessible. But, like you, I was surprised that even modern
Tube platforms don't have level access for the full platform length.

That would encourage wheelchair users to board any carriage at T5, but
then be unable to get off at any other station.

Recliner[_3_]

May 5th 16 01:03 PM

Picc T5 not disabled accessible from platform

On Thu, 5 May 2016 13:57:03 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\05\05 10:09, wrote:
In article
-september.
org, (Recliner) wrote:

wrote:
Given T5 was only opened relatively recently I'm wondering what genius
decided that NOT making the train floor and platform heights the same
was a good idea? The platform isn't curved AFAIR so I don't understand
why they didn't do it.

I'm guessing it must lack the platform hump that allows the T4 platform to
claim to be accessible. But, like you, I was surprised that even modern
Tube platforms don't have level access for the full platform length.

That would encourage wheelchair users to board any carriage at T5, but
then be unable to get off at any other station.

Yes, that's a good point.

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