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Basil Jet[_4_] June 15th 16 12:20 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/

Christopher A. Lee[_2_] June 15th 16 12:48 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:20:07 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/


I didn't look at the overlay showing the differences, until after I'd
realised that the slope of the lower part of the "g" was different -
and even that took some time.

Basil Jet[_4_] June 15th 16 01:42 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On 2016\06\15 01:48, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:20:07 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/


I didn't look at the overlay showing the differences, until after I'd
realised that the slope of the lower part of the "g" was different -
and even that took some time.


Is it my imagination or does TfL New Johnston Book, pictured about
halfway down the article, have a capital O which is taller than it is wide?

Graeme Wall June 15th 16 06:24 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On 15/06/2016 01:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/


I like the fact the article is set in the new font.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.


Graeme Wall June 15th 16 06:35 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On 15/06/2016 07:24, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/06/2016 01:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/



I like the fact the article is set in the new font.


Sorry, meant Johnson New font.

--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.


[email protected] June 15th 16 08:19 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
In article , (Basil Jet)
wrote:

On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214


Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at


http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...d-johnston-100
/

For me one mystery that is completely unmentioned is the two capital W forms
that have existed. The one with crossed elements which I have seen on a few
station bullseyes, appears in one picture but is otherwise unmentioned.
Anyone know more?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

[email protected] June 15th 16 08:19 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
In article , (Graeme
Wall) wrote:

On 15/06/2016 07:24, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/06/2016 01:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214

Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at


http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...d-johnston-100
/

I like the fact the article is set in the new font.


Sorry, meant Johnson New font.


Johnston 100, surely? New Johnston was the 1979 rework.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Robin[_4_] June 15th 16 09:44 AM

London Underground changing typeface
 
On 15/06/2016 09:19, wrote:
In article ,
(Graeme
Wall) wrote:

On 15/06/2016 07:24, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/06/2016 01:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214

Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at


http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...d-johnston-100
/

I like the fact the article is set in the new font.


Sorry, meant Johnson New font.


Johnston 100, surely? New Johnston was the 1979 rework.

No. John Bull added later, in the comments:

"This article is set in New Johnston (i.e. the typeface first created by
Eiichi Kono). TfL were kind enough to grant us a one-off license to use
it on this specific article.

That in itself is an honour, as over its 100 year history you can (quite
literally) count the number of times an ‘official’ version of Johnston
has been sanctioned for use outside of a TfL/LU body on the fingers of
one hand.

Johnston100 is not used anywhere yet. It will debut in July."

--
Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

[email protected] June 15th 16 12:05 PM

London Underground changing typeface
 
In article ,
(Robin) wrote:

On 15/06/2016 09:19,
wrote:
In article ,

(Graeme Wall) wrote:

On 15/06/2016 07:24, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/06/2016 01:20, Basil Jet wrote:
On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214

Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at



http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...d-johnston-100
/

I like the fact the article is set in the new font.

Sorry, meant Johnson New font.


Johnston 100, surely? New Johnston was the 1979 rework.

No. John Bull added later, in the comments:

"This article is set in New Johnston (i.e. the typeface first created
by Eiichi Kono). TfL were kind enough to grant us a one-off license
to use it on this specific article.

That in itself is an honour, as over its 100 year history you can
(quite literally) count the number of times an _official_ version of
Johnston has been sanctioned for use outside of a TfL/LU body on the
fingers of one hand.

Johnston100 is not used anywhere yet. It will debut in July."


Oh, OK. I made a mistake.

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Richard J.[_3_] June 15th 16 02:55 PM

London Underground changing typeface
 
Basil Jet wrote on 15 Jun 2016 at 02:42 ...
On 2016\06\15 01:48, Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:20:07 +0100, Basil Jet
wrote:

On 2016\06\14 19:11, Graeme Wall wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-36525214

Crossposted to UTL.

There is an outstanding article at

http://www.londonreconnections.com/2...-johnston-100/


I didn't look at the overlay showing the differences, until after I'd
realised that the slope of the lower part of the "g" was different -
and even that took some time.


Is it my imagination or does TfL New Johnston Book, pictured about
halfway down the article, have a capital O which is taller than it is wide?


Yes, that's true. New Johnston Book, introduced in 2002, is a slightly
condensed and lighter form of New Johnston Light, intended for body text
at 12pt or smaller. One of its features is that the diamond shapes (in
letters i and j, full stop, etc.) have concave curved edges in orer to
improve legibility at small sizes. TfL have not always followed the
rule not to use Book at sizes greater than 12pt. If you can see the
curves on the diamond, the rule has been broken!

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)


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