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In article , d () wrote:
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:23:38 -0500 wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:48:04 +0100 "Norman Wells" wrote: "Colin Reeves" wrote in message ... Lev.19:19 is broken if anyone plants two different crops in the same field, as do those who wear garments made of two different kinds of thread plus many other rules that have been modified over time. I think you'd better ask a rabbi. Christ, and hence Christianity, came rather later. Christianity is just Judaism v2.0 3.0 surely? How else could you get the Trinity? Well, yes :) Though I'll go with Recliner on Islam being 3.0 in the same way that Windows 8 followed 7. Newer doesn't always mean better. Interestingly, according to wonkypedia: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500,
wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:23:38 -0500 wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:48:04 +0100 "Norman Wells" wrote: "Colin Reeves" wrote in message ... Lev.19:19 is broken if anyone plants two different crops in the same field, as do those who wear garments made of two different kinds of thread plus many other rules that have been modified over time. I think you'd better ask a rabbi. Christ, and hence Christianity, came rather later. Christianity is just Judaism v2.0 3.0 surely? How else could you get the Trinity? Well, yes :) Though I'll go with Recliner on Islam being 3.0 in the same way that Windows 8 followed 7. Newer doesn't always mean better. Interestingly, according to wonkypedia: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. "Holy Ghost" is an unfortunate KJV translation from the Koine Greek. OTOH Boltar's rendering of the Hebrew is spot on. Ruach = Wind, Breeze, or spirit. Kodesh = Holy. The Ha_ prefix is the definite article. Note the forms of Hebrew words change according to context. |
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On 2016\08\28 14:31, e27002 aurora wrote:
Note the forms of Hebrew words change according to context. .... whether you're buying or selling? |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100
e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. -- Spud |
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. |
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Recliner wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Perhaps you need to read up on what went on in Western Europe between 1618 and 1648. Robin |
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bob wrote:
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Perhaps you need to read up on what went on in Western Europe between 1618 and 1648. I used the present tense... |
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In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:23:38 -0500 wrote: In article , d () wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:48:04 +0100 "Norman Wells" wrote: "Colin Reeves" wrote in message ... Lev.19:19 is broken if anyone plants two different crops in the same field, as do those who wear garments made of two different kinds of thread plus many other rules that have been modified over time. I think you'd better ask a rabbi. Christ, and hence Christianity, came rather later. Christianity is just Judaism v2.0 3.0 surely? How else could you get the Trinity? Well, yes :) Though I'll go with Recliner on Islam being 3.0 in the same way that Windows 8 followed 7. Newer doesn't always mean better. Interestingly, according to wonkypedia: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. No. my family had no religion and my parents thought my brother and I would fit in better by attending everything with the majority. I was a choirboy, I'll have you know and have a solo on a record made with Malcolm Williamson! There was a group at my school who held Jewish Prayers and another group I joined when older after rejecting religion which we called "Atheist Prayers" where those who had got ourselves opted out of Assembly mainly rushed to complete our homework from the night before. At least two others in that group had refugee parents. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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On 28/08/2016 21:24, bob wrote:
Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Perhaps you need to read up on what went on in Western Europe between 1618 and 1648. Or Northern Ireland in much of the last century. |
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Clive D.W. Feather wrote:
On 28/08/2016 21:24, bob wrote: Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Perhaps you need to read up on what went on in Western Europe between 1618 and 1648. Or Northern Ireland in much of the last century. Not nearly the same level of hatred as between the different flavours of Islam. Much of it was Irish nationalism, not religion anyway (how many IRA terrorists were acting on behalf of religion?). |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:37:17 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Clive D.W. Feather wrote: On 28/08/2016 21:24, bob wrote: Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Perhaps you need to read up on what went on in Western Europe between 1618 and 1648. Or Northern Ireland in much of the last century. Not nearly the same level of hatred as between the different flavours of Islam. Much of it was Irish nationalism, not religion anyway (how many IRA terrorists were acting on behalf of religion?). Wolfe Tone, often regarded as the originator of modern Irish nationalism was a Protestant. |
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On 28/08/2016 21:17, Recliner wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Never been to Northern Ireland then? -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 28/08/2016 21:17, Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Never been to Northern Ireland then? Read the rest of the thread. And, yes, I've stayed in the Europa hotel. Have you? That conflict was mainly about nationalism, not religion. And the total deaths over more than 40 years (3568) were a small fraction of the Moslem-on-Moslem deaths each year. Here's last year's list of Islamic terrorism attacks, most of whose victims were other Moslems. It doesn't include the 'legal' executions in places like Iran and Said Arabia. The number killed: 27,594 (or about the entire deaths from the NI Troubles every 6-7 weeks). http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/at...s.aspx?Yr=2015 |
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On 29/08/2016 08:33, Recliner wrote:
Graeme Wall wrote: On 28/08/2016 21:17, Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:31:16 +0100 e27002 aurora wrote: On Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:48:19 -0500, wrote: "Christian theologians identify the Third Person of the Holy Trinity in the Jewish sacred scriptures with the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Breath)" Whatever that means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_S...n_Christianity It was always the Holy Ghost when I were a lad. You were not excused from Assembly and RE then? In Aston Clinton they did not think there were any Jewish Children. But, Roman Catholic children were excused. Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. Never been to Northern Ireland then? Read the rest of the thread. And, yes, I've stayed in the Europa hotel. Have you? Yes, and drunk in the Crown opposite. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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In message , at 10:17:53 on Mon, 29 Aug
2016, Graeme Wall remarked: Read the rest of the thread. And, yes, I've stayed in the Europa hotel. Have you? Yes, and drunk in the Crown opposite. Sober in the morning, huh? -- Roland Perry |
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On 29/08/2016 10:23, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:17:53 on Mon, 29 Aug 2016, Graeme Wall remarked: Read the rest of the thread. And, yes, I've stayed in the Europa hotel. Have you? Yes, and drunk in the Crown opposite. Sober in the morning, huh? Occasionally :-) -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 09:42:11 +0100, Hils wrote:
On 29/08/16 07:38, wrote: On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 20:17:01 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Always amuses me the division between the various christian factions who seem to think of each other almost as seperate religions, whereas in fact the only real differences are slight variations in the mumblings and which old geezer in a dress is in charge. Yup, it's hard for an outsider to make any sense of it. But at least they don't seem to hate each other with the same murderous passion as the Shias and Sunnis. I take it you have never been in Glasgow in the vicinity of those attending a match between Celtic and Rangers. Or, presumably, read of the treatment meted out by pre-reformation Papists to anyone who dissented in the slightest way from their totalitarian, superstitious, theocratic crap. The sooner the Abrahamic superstitions are erased from the Earth, the better. People don't need religion to be superstitious or xenophobic. |
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 06:59:35PM +0100, Charles Ellson wrote:
People don't need religion to be superstitious or xenophobic. This is true. Religion sure does help though. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age The test of the goodness of a thing is its fitness for use. If it fails on this first test, no amount of ornamentation or finish will make it any better, it will only make it more expensive and foolish. -- Frank Pick, lecture to the Design and Industries Assoc, 1916 |
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