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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:01:37 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Hearn
wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-station It doesn't say how many milliWales it is I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 |
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On 2016\08\29 15:05, Recliner wrote:
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:01:37 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Hearn wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-station It doesn't say how many milliWales it is I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 Thanks. It looks nice, but the lift shafts seem out of place. Why do lifts need enclosed shafts anyway? You'd think they would only need two L-profile poles at opposite corners, if they needed anything at all. |
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In article , (Recliner) wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:01:37 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Hearn wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-sized-concour se-to-partially-open-at-london-bridge-station It doesn't say how many milliWales it is I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 How did you avoid the obnoxious security man Paul Corfield told us on Twitter he ran into? I didn't see any jobsworths, and no-one was being stopped from taking pics. All was relaxed and friendly. I just tried to avoid the ubiquitous 'can I help you' blue-vested people. |
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In message , at 00:12:00 on Tue, 30 Aug 2016,
Basil Jet remarked: I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 Thanks. It looks nice, but the lift shafts seem out of place. They are similar to the ones at St Pancras, and before that on The Lawn at Paddington. -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:35:01 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Monday, 29 August 2016 15:05:11 UTC+1, Recliner wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:01:37 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Hearn wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-station It doesn't say how many milliWales it is I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 Thanks for sharing. Quite so, Nigel takes a nice photograph. I had a look on a staff preview a week or so ago and I agree that it has a serious "wow" factor. Overall the new station looks excellent. The font on the fixed signs is not great. Gill Sans would have been markedly better. |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:01:12 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Monday, 29 August 2016 19:35:03 UTC+1, wrote: On Monday, 29 August 2016 15:05:11 UTC+1, Recliner wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 06:01:37 -0700 (PDT), Patrick Hearn wrote: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...bridge-station It doesn't say how many milliWales it is I went along to take a look this morning. Here's some of my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...57673127347595 Thanks for sharing. I had a look on a staff preview a week or so ago and I agree that it has a serious "wow" factor. A last view of the old Cannon Street side, taken last Thursday: https://www.flickr.com/photos/605390...posted-public/ And a reminder of earlier times! https://www.flickr.com/photos/605390...7633219858449/ Thank you, Good to see the evolution of the station. |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 23:41:16 +0100, Neil Williams
wrote: On 2016-08-29 18:35:01 +0000, said: Thanks for sharing. I had a look on a staff preview a week or so ago and I agree that it has a serious "wow" factor. All that wood reminds me of Bern Hbf. The PIS positioning looks very well thought through, too. Neil The finish looks beautiful, such an improvement on British Rail's 1970s attempt at modernizing the station. |
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e27002 aurora wrote on 30 Aug 2016 at 18:43 ...
Overall the new station looks excellent. The font on the fixed signs is not great. Gill Sans would have been markedly better. The font is presumably NR Brunel, Network Rail's current standard for signage. The only full character set that I've found is buried in the NR document "Managed Stations Wayfinding" on page 10 (numbered as page 20 in my downloaded PDF file). It can be downloaded from https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...Guidelines.pdf It's difficult to comment on the signage based on Recliner's photos, but I would doubt if Gill Sans would be "markedly better". What don't you like about the NR Brunel font? -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms".
I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? |
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Tim Watts wrote:
I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms". I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? Probably both. The escalator/lift wells are quite long, to let light down into the concourse below. That's why it looks so bright and airy. But it means that boarding pax can circulate below, choosing the right point to ascend up to their platform, rather than having to push along the platform itself. |
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Richard J. wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote on 30 Aug 2016 at 18:43 ... Overall the new station looks excellent. The font on the fixed signs is not great. Gill Sans would have been markedly better. The font is presumably NR Brunel, Network Rail's current standard for signage. The only full character set that I've found is buried in the NR document "Managed Stations Wayfinding" on page 10 (numbered as page 20 in my downloaded PDF file). It can be downloaded from https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...Guidelines.pdf It's difficult to comment on the signage based on Recliner's photos, but I would doubt if Gill Sans would be "markedly better". What don't you like about the NR Brunel font? The signs all seemed to be using the normal NR font. Perhaps Adrian was referring to the big temporary wall that covers the work going on under platforms 1-6, which, probably deliberately, uses a different font to promote the Thameslink project? https://www.flickr.com/photos/reclin...ream/lightbox/ |
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms". I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? Cannon St's not closed (unless it was just a one-off) The difficultly is that Cannon Street trains are not stopping at London Bridge (for the next 2 years) tim |
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tim... wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms". I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? Cannon St's not closed (unless it was just a one-off) The difficultly is that Cannon Street trains are not stopping at London Bridge (for the next 2 years) It was closed for a few days for the track realignment through LBG. |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 10:03:25 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote:
tim... wrote: "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms". I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? Cannon St's not closed (unless it was just a one-off) The difficultly is that Cannon Street trains are not stopping at London Bridge (for the next 2 years) It was closed for a few days for the track realignment through LBG. Le Bourget? :) |
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On 31/08/16 10:41, tim... wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message ... I see complaints in the Standard of "narrow platforms". I know for a fact the through lines have exactly the same spacing as before (been going through it for the last year on the train). Are they complaining about the fact that there are those big flassed off rectangles where the escalators are? Or is it false perception due to being extra crowded as Cannon St is closed? Cannon St's not closed (unless it was just a one-off) The difficultly is that Cannon Street trains are not stopping at London Bridge (for the next 2 years) It *might* have been a one off the other day, or maybe just affecting the Hastings line. I recall the guard saying "closed" when apologising for out train being rammed (properly, not in a Jeremy Corbyn way). I know the whole London Bridge thing has some funny short term restrictions in August covering the switchover (CHX trains stopping at Lon Br, and Cannot St not for the next year or so). Looking very smart though - and I have used the terminus platforms once last week when the Hastings trains started there (Sevenoaks line closed for engineering, Hastings taking the scenic route via Redhill). It's looking a LOT better than that horrid abomination that was there throughout my childhood until recently. |
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On 31/08/2016 12:42, Tim Watts wrote:
I know the whole London Bridge thing has some funny short term restrictions in August covering the switchover (CHX trains stopping at Lon Br, and Cannot St not for the next year or so). Very appropriate typo :-) -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 00:03:27 +0100, "Richard J."
wrote: e27002 aurora wrote on 30 Aug 2016 at 18:43 ... Overall the new station looks excellent. The font on the fixed signs is not great. Gill Sans would have been markedly better. The font is presumably NR Brunel, Network Rail's current standard for signage. The only full character set that I've found is buried in the NR document "Managed Stations Wayfinding" on page 10 (numbered as page 20 in my downloaded PDF file). It can be downloaded from https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...Guidelines.pdf Thank you. It took a while to download that. It's difficult to comment on the signage based on Recliner's photos, but I would doubt if Gill Sans would be "markedly better". What don't you like about the NR Brunel font? OK, so look at the picture from Nigel: http://tinyurl.com/zkpzow2 The "9" has a very exaggerated form. Railways in the UK have always had a reputation for adopting good industrial design. IMHO the understatement inherent in Gill Sans is very pleasing to the eye when used for sign posting and the like. OTOH it is terrible for documents. :-) |
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e27002 aurora wrote on 01 Sep 2016 at 08:53 ...
On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 00:03:27 +0100, "Richard J." wrote: e27002 aurora wrote on 30 Aug 2016 at 18:43 ... Overall the new station looks excellent. The font on the fixed signs is not great. Gill Sans would have been markedly better. The font is presumably NR Brunel, Network Rail's current standard for signage. The only full character set that I've found is buried in the NR document "Managed Stations Wayfinding" on page 10 (numbered as page 20 in my downloaded PDF file). It can be downloaded from https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...Guidelines.pdf Thank you. It took a while to download that. It's difficult to comment on the signage based on Recliner's photos, but I would doubt if Gill Sans would be "markedly better". What don't you like about the NR Brunel font? OK, so look at the picture from Nigel: http://tinyurl.com/zkpzow2 The "9" has a very exaggerated form. Railways in the UK have always had a reputation for adopting good industrial design. IMHO the understatement inherent in Gill Sans is very pleasing to the eye when used for sign posting and the like. The elegant understatement doesn't necessarily aid fast recognition from a distance which you need in a font used for signage. The most understated character in Gill Sans is the number "1", which is indistinguishable from upper case "i" and lower case "L". Having said that, I don't find the 9 and 6 in NR Brunel very attractive. But in any font, there are always one or two characters that grate against one's own feelings. -- Richard J. (to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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