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[email protected] December 23rd 16 04:11 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.


It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.


The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.


IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.


Why do you say that?

--
Colin Rosenstiel

e27002 aurora December 23rd 16 04:24 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.


It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.


IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.


Why do you say that?


It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.

Recliner[_3_] December 23rd 16 07:40 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.


It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.

IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.


Why do you say that?


It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.


Actually, as I'm sure you're very well aware, Watford is in Herts, well
outside London and the zonal area. And the Bakerloo line has never gone to
Docklands. Furthermore, people from Watford who want to travel to central
London are far more likely to take a fast LM train, not an excruciatingly
slow LU or LO train.


Martin Edwards[_2_] December 24th 16 12:11 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
On 12/23/2016 5:24 PM, e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.


It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.

IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.


Why do you say that?


It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.

In the 50s it did run there, and there were still a few in the 60s.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Martin Edwards[_2_] December 24th 16 12:14 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
On 12/23/2016 8:40 PM, Recliner wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.

It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.

IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.

Why do you say that?


It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.


Actually, as I'm sure you're very well aware, Watford is in Herts, well
outside London and the zonal area. And the Bakerloo line has never gone to
Docklands. Furthermore, people from Watford who want to travel to central
London are far more likely to take a fast LM train, not an excruciatingly
slow LU or LO train.

Outside, but not well outside. It has a border with the London Borough
of Harrow. It might make sense to put it in the zonal area. Bushey
used to be in the Met Police area.

--
Myth, after all, is what we believe naturally. History is what we must
painfully learn and struggle to remember. -Albert Goldman

Charles Ellson[_2_] December 25th 16 12:18 AM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:14:28 +0000, Martin Edwards
wrote:

On 12/23/2016 8:40 PM, Recliner wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,
wrote:

In article ,

(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d () wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo back to
harrow.

It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of there
when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it wasn't
even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not as if it
was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access Croxley
Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.

IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.

Why do you say that?

It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.


Actually, as I'm sure you're very well aware, Watford is in Herts, well
outside London and the zonal area. And the Bakerloo line has never gone to
Docklands. Furthermore, people from Watford who want to travel to central
London are far more likely to take a fast LM train, not an excruciatingly
slow LU or LO train.

Outside, but not well outside. It has a border with the London Borough
of Harrow. It might make sense to put it in the zonal area. Bushey
used to be in the Met Police area.

Until recent times there was no connection (apart from its innermost
boundary with the capital city) between the Metropolitan Police
District and local authority areas. It was based on rough proximity to
Charing Cross to deal with matters within the metropolis.

[email protected] December 25th 16 08:24 AM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
In article ,
(Charles Ellson) wrote:

On Sat, 24 Dec 2016 13:14:28 +0000, Martin Edwards
wrote:

On 12/23/2016 8:40 PM, Recliner wrote:
e27002 aurora wrote:
On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 11:11:10 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
(e27002 aurora) wrote:

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 07:25:43 -0600,

wrote:

In article ,
d ()
wrote:

I never really got the rationalle behind cutting the bakerloo
back to harrow.

It was actually cut back to Queen's Park and only extended north of
there when Stonebridge Park Depot was built.

There's obviously a commuter demand for it (hence LO) and it
wasn't even the longest tube line when it did run there so its not
as if it was going miles.

The Bakerloo only had a limited peak hour service (to access
Croxley Green Depot) long before even that was withdrawn.

IMHO it makes more sense to run the Bakerloo to Watford than the
Overground.

Why do you say that?

It is very much within the London conurbation, and ones suspects most
users would prefer a direct rapid transit train to the West End and
Docklands than a suburban train to a terminus. Just my USD0.02.

Actually, as I'm sure you're very well aware, Watford is in Herts, well
outside London and the zonal area. And the Bakerloo line has never gone
to Docklands. Furthermore, people from Watford who want to travel to
central London are far more likely to take a fast LM train, not an
excruciatingly slow LU or LO train.

Outside, but not well outside. It has a border with the London Borough
of Harrow. It might make sense to put it in the zonal area. Bushey
used to be in the Met Police area.

Until recent times there was no connection (apart from its innermost
boundary with the capital city) between the Metropolitan Police
District and local authority areas. It was based on rough proximity to
Charing Cross to deal with matters within the metropolis.


Actually, the Metropolitan Police District did correspond to a set of
pre-1965 local authorities, but they got reorganised in 1965 (within Greater
London) and 1974 (elsewhere).

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Roland Perry December 25th 16 11:53 AM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
In message , at 03:24:05
on Sun, 25 Dec 2016, remarked:

Until recent times there was no connection (apart from its innermost
boundary with the capital city) between the Metropolitan Police
District and local authority areas. It was based on rough proximity to
Charing Cross to deal with matters within the metropolis.


Actually, the Metropolitan Police District did correspond to a set of
pre-1965 local authorities, but they got reorganised in 1965 (within Greater
London) and 1974 (elsewhere).


I think they retreated from places like Esher (Surrey) much more
recently than that.
--
Roland Perry

tim... December 25th 16 01:57 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 


"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at 03:24:05 on
Sun, 25 Dec 2016, remarked:

Until recent times there was no connection (apart from its innermost
boundary with the capital city) between the Metropolitan Police
District and local authority areas. It was based on rough proximity to
Charing Cross to deal with matters within the metropolis.


Actually, the Metropolitan Police District did correspond to a set of
pre-1965 local authorities, but they got reorganised in 1965 (within
Greater
London) and 1974 (elsewhere).


I think they retreated from places like Esher (Surrey) much more recently
than that.


and Epsom as well

Greater London Authority Act 1999, it seems


--
Roland Perry



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[email protected] December 25th 16 07:46 PM

London Metropolitan line Watford
 
In article , (tim...)
wrote:

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...
In message , at
03:24:05 on Sun, 25 Dec 2016,
remarked:

Until recent times there was no connection (apart from its innermost
boundary with the capital city) between the Metropolitan Police
District and local authority areas. It was based on rough proximity to
Charing Cross to deal with matters within the metropolis.

Actually, the Metropolitan Police District did correspond to a set of
pre-1965 local authorities, but they got reorganised in 1965 (within
Greater London) and 1974 (elsewhere).


I think they retreated from places like Esher (Surrey) much more
recently than that.


and Epsom as well

Greater London Authority Act 1999, it seems


Indeed. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. All I was saying was that the
Metropolitan Police District comprised whole local authority areas as they
existed at the time the boundaries were defined.

--
Colin Rosenstiel


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