In article ,
Gawnsoft wrote:

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot lose
control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

--
Mark Foster, IT Services, University of Sussex Comp, UK. BN1 9QJ
E-Mail: - +44 1273 678902/873135
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"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
[Driving, HMSO]

Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot lose
control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor maintenance,
though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.

Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.

The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily enough the
day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer... Fortunately we were only
trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather than for the roundabout further up
the road.

In article ,
"scott" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off or
other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.

The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily enough the
day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer... Fortunately we were only
trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather than for the roundabout further up
the road.

It's still NOT the *car* that loses control. Even in the case of
mechanical failure it is the *driver* that loses control of the car. In
some, very rare, scenarios the driver may not be at fault but it is
still the *driver* that loses control.

--
Mark Foster, IT Services, University of Sussex Comp, UK. BN1 9QJ
E-Mail: - +44 1273 678902/873135
-------------------------------------------------
"There are no such useless words as...'I didn't have a chance.'"
[Driving, HMSO]

Mark Foster wrote:
In article ,
"scott" wrote:

Adrian wrote:
Mark Foster ) gurgled happily,
sounding much like they were saying :

What about the instances of cars losing control and leaving the
road?

Ahh... that would be those magic cars that drive themselves then?

*Ding*

The *car* is not in control in the first place and therefore cannot
lose control. It is the *driver* that loses control.

Well, I s'pose there is the (very) rare case of a wheel falling off
or other mechanical failure. They're usually the result of poor
maintenance, though - which is..... the DRIVER's responsibility.

The brakes failed on my family's Ford orion years ago, funnily
enough the day after it had been serviced by a Ford dealer...
Fortunately we were only trying to stop in an empty lay-by rather
than for the roundabout further up the road.

It's still NOT the *car* that loses control. Even in the case of
mechanical failure it is the *driver* that loses control of the car.
In some, very rare, scenarios the driver may not be at fault but it is
still the *driver* that loses control.

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in control
of itself? ;-)

scott wrote:

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in
control of itself? ;-)

Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the car has
control over everything except direction and the music being played on the
stereo.

Stimpy wrote on Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:01:12 +0100:
scott wrote:

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in
control of itself? ;-)

Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the car has
control over everything except direction and the music being played on the
stereo.

The driver still has control over the cruise control.

--
David Taylor

"The future just ain't what it used to be."

David Taylor wrote:

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in
control of itself? ;-)

Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the
car has control over everything except direction and the music being
played on the stereo.

The driver still has control over the cruise control.

Hence my careful inclusion of the words "Whilst it's activated" in the above
post.

Stimpy wrote on Sun, 4 Apr 2004 17:33:10 +0100:
David Taylor wrote:

I never said it was! Isn't it obvious that the car can never be in
control of itself? ;-)

Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the
car has control over everything except direction and the music being
played on the stereo.

The driver still has control over the cruise control.

Hence my careful inclusion of the words "Whilst it's activated" in the above
post.

Even whilst it's activated, the driver has control over the cruise
control -- they can turn it off. Unless it malfunctions...

--
David Taylor

"The future just ain't what it used to be."

David Taylor ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Radar guided adaptive cruise control? Whilst it's activated, the
car has control over everything except direction and the music
being played on the stereo.

The driver still has control over the cruise control.

Hence my careful inclusion of the words "Whilst it's activated" in
the above post.

Even whilst it's activated, the driver has control over the cruise
control -- they can turn it off. Unless it malfunctions...

In the unlikely event of major CC malfunction, the driver can always turn
it off.

Even if, due to some major brain-fart on the designer or installer's part,
there's no way to just cut power to the CC unit, the driver can just knock
the car into neutral.