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Bakerloo 2017 consultation
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Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:19:02 +0000, Basil Jet
wrote: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ Next week - Northern Line to Elstree ? |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On 02/03/2017 00:19, Basil Jet wrote:
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ At last, a proposal that wasn't in the 1971 London Rail Study! Makes a lot of sense. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On 02/03/2017 02:39, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:19:02 +0000, Basil Jet wrote: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ Next week - Northern Line to Elstree ? Already there, you can see the trains on Eastenders… -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
"Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ get then to give Bromley council a great big kick up the arse and stop them from vetoing the extension along the Catford branch. I really can't believe that the residents of Hayes wouldn't prefer an every 5 minute service to a choice of central London destinations instead of a 15 minute service to a main line station where they have to change, just because they lose the possibility of through services to Cannon Street. and not to mention the possibility for a 24 hour service |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On 02/03/2017 08:54, tim... wrote:
"Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ get then to give Bromley council a great big kick up the arse and stop them from vetoing the extension along the Catford branch. I really can't believe that the residents of Hayes wouldn't prefer an every 5 minute service to a choice of central London destinations instead of a 15 minute service to a main line station where they have to change, just because they lose the possibility of through services to Cannon Street. and not to mention the possibility for a 24 hour service Presumably that comes under the heading of proposed extensions. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2017 08:54, tim... wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ get then to give Bromley council a great big kick up the arse and stop them from vetoing the extension along the Catford branch. I really can't believe that the residents of Hayes wouldn't prefer an every 5 minute service to a choice of central London destinations instead of a 15 minute service to a main line station where they have to change, just because they lose the possibility of through services to Cannon Street. and not to mention the possibility for a 24 hour service Presumably that comes under the heading of proposed extensions. it was in the original suggestion but was taken out because Bromley didn't support it (actively discouraged it) The additional costs of converting 5-10 miles of over-ground line is going to be (relatively) trivial and the costs of the linking tunnel is going to cost considerably more to do as a one-off, than as part of the original build and, of course, it saves on the costs of turn around facilities at Lewisham tim |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:21:15 -0000
"tim..." wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2017 08:54, tim... wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ I'd lay money on the actual old kent road station ending up in the middle of the 2 proposals if this extension ever gets built. but was taken out because Bromley didn't support it (actively discouraged it) I can kind of see their point. Would you really want to switch to having to squeeze onto a tube train in the rush hour when up until now you've been used to mainline sized trains? Also tube trains arn't fast and the journey could end up taking somewhat longer. -- Spud |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:21:15 -0000 "tim..." wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2017 08:54, tim... wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ I'd lay money on the actual old kent road station ending up in the middle of the 2 proposals if this extension ever gets built. but was taken out because Bromley didn't support it (actively discouraged it) I can kind of see their point. Would you really want to switch to having to squeeze onto a tube train in the rush hour when up until now you've been used to mainline sized trains? you really think there's that much of a difference? And there will be more of them (per hour) so more room for all the people at the outlying stations Also tube trains arn't fast and the journey could end up taking somewhat longer. The services are already "all stops" so I can't see it being that different tim -- Spud |
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Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 10:08:25 -0000
"tim..." wrote: wrote in message ... I can kind of see their point. Would you really want to switch to having to squeeze onto a tube train in the rush hour when up until now you've been used to mainline sized trains? you really think there's that much of a difference? Yes. Tube trains are cramped and have a hard ride due to the limited suspension travel. Track defects that would barely be noticable in a mainline train are painfully obvious in a tube train. -- Spud |
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In article , (tim...)
wrote: wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 09:21:15 -0000 "tim..." wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message ... On 02/03/2017 08:54, tim... wrote: "Basil Jet" wrote in message ... https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ I'd lay money on the actual old kent road station ending up in the middle of the 2 proposals if this extension ever gets built. but was taken out because Bromley didn't support it (actively discouraged it) I can kind of see their point. Would you really want to switch to having to squeeze onto a tube train in the rush hour when up until now you've been used to mainline sized trains? you really think there's that much of a difference? And there will be more of them (per hour) so more room for all the people at the outlying stations Also tube trains arn't fast and the journey could end up taking somewhat longer. The services are already "all stops" so I can't see it being that different Indeed. Compare the 41-43 minutes off-peak for 14 1/2 miles from Hayes to Charing Cross to 47 minutes for the 23.23 Km (14 1/2miles) from Harrow & Wealdstone to Elephant & Castle. Hardly a big difference in running time for more than double the effective frequency and reduced transfer times for most passengers. 3 trains an hour from Harrow & Wealdstone are LO, connecting at Queen's Park into a 20 trains an hour off-peak service. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:44:09 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote: On 02/03/2017 02:39, Charles Ellson wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:19:02 +0000, Basil Jet wrote: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ Next week - Northern Line to Elstree ? Already there, you can see the trains on Eastenders… Can't, I don't watch it. ;-) |
Bakerloo 2017 consultation
On 02/03/2017 18:49, Charles Ellson wrote:
On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 07:44:09 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote: On 02/03/2017 02:39, Charles Ellson wrote: On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 00:19:02 +0000, Basil Jet wrote: https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/tub.../consult_view/ Next week - Northern Line to Elstree ? Already there, you can see the trains on Eastenders… Can't, I don't watch it. ;-) Likewise, although I used to watch it once. Got fed up because it just seemed to be endless variations of the same stories. And have deserted other soaps for the same reason. |
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