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Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
CIRCLE LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday
17 April, no service between Hammersmith and Edgware Road. HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Liverpool Street and Barking. Trains will operate between Hammersmith and Aldgate. Why is the Circle suspended, but not the Hammersmith & City? Don't they share tracks? -- jhk |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 5:17:11 PM UTC+1, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
CIRCLE LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Hammersmith and Edgware Road. HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Liverpool Street and Barking. Trains will operate between Hammersmith and Aldgate. Why is the Circle suspended, but not the Hammersmith & City? Don't they share tracks? -- jhk Well, as a guess, I'd say that as there is no service between Liverpool Street and Barking, Hammersmith & City Line trains will fill out the schedule to Hammersmith so there will be no need and no requirement for Circle Line trains to provide the same service. to |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
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Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On 14/04/2017 12:20, Recliner wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:34:57 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: The "Weekend travel information" email says the reason for the Circle suspension is to test new signalling. Will the Hammersmith & City line trains run with the new signalling then? They're exactly the same trains, so, no, not with passengers on board. My guess is that the signalling test is on a part of the Circle line that's closed this long Easter weekend. Yes - but as pointed out there is no part of the Circle Line that is closed that isn't shared with the Hammersmith and City line which is open. |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 14/04/2017 12:20, Recliner wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:34:57 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: The "Weekend travel information" email says the reason for the Circle suspension is to test new signalling. Will the Hammersmith & City line trains run with the new signalling then? They're exactly the same trains, so, no, not with passengers on board. My guess is that the signalling test is on a part of the Circle line that's closed this long Easter weekend. Yes - but as pointed out there is no part of the Circle Line that is closed that isn't shared with the Hammersmith and City line which is open. So does that mean the Circle Line is actually a circle line this weekend? |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On 2017\04\14 14:53, Recliner wrote:
Someone Somewhere wrote: On 14/04/2017 12:20, Recliner wrote: On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:34:57 +0200, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: The "Weekend travel information" email says the reason for the Circle suspension is to test new signalling. Will the Hammersmith & City line trains run with the new signalling then? They're exactly the same trains, so, no, not with passengers on board. My guess is that the signalling test is on a part of the Circle line that's closed this long Easter weekend. Yes - but as pointed out there is no part of the Circle Line that is closed that isn't shared with the Hammersmith and City line which is open. So does that mean the Circle Line is actually a circle line this weekend? Looks that way... the journey planner says that Aldgate to Bayswater is direct Circle Line via Barbican. If I ask it for the same journey next Wednesday it gives the same route but includes the change at Edgware Road. |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:53:28 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
wrote: Yes - but as pointed out there is no part of the Circle Line that is closed that isn't shared with the Hammersmith and City line which is open. So does that mean the Circle Line is actually a circle line this weekend? From the Weekend travel information email: " A circular service will operate Edgware Road – Aldgate – Edgware Road. " -- jhk |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:53:28 -0000 (UTC), Recliner wrote: Yes - but as pointed out there is no part of the Circle Line that is closed that isn't shared with the Hammersmith and City line which is open. So does that mean the Circle Line is actually a circle line this weekend? From the Weekend travel information email: " A circular service will operate Edgware Road – Aldgate – Edgware Road. " I wonder if the new signalling is actually being tested on the closed eastern section of the H&C and District lines, between Aldgate East and West Ham? |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
In message , Jarle Hammen Knudsen writes HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Liverpool Street and Barking. Trains will operate between Hammersmith and Aldgate. Why is the Circle suspended, but not the Hammersmith & City? Don't they share tracks? -- jhk Well, as a guess, I'd say that as there is no service between Liverpool Street and Barking, Hammersmith & City Line trains will fill out the schedule to Hammersmith so there will be no need and no requirement for Circle Line trains to provide the same service. to The "Weekend travel information" email says the reason for the Circle suspension is to test new signalling. Will the Hammersmith & City line trains run with the new signalling then? They are running a circular Circle this weekend and a Hammersmith - Aldgate service; called Circle line on the trains as the H&C doesn't go to Aldgate! So, in the clockwise (outer rail) direction, there are two separate Circle line services! But separate Circle and H&C services in the anti-clock. The main work is Crossrail work at Whitechapel. Yes, that makes sense. |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote:
The main work is Crossrail work at Whitechapel. Again? How many closures are they planning to have for that? Actually, a better way to put it would be - how many closures did they originally plan for and how many are they actually going to have, on both the sub-surface and Overground lines? |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:03:38 +0100, Someone Somewhere
wrote: Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote: The main work is Crossrail work at Whitechapel. Again? How many closures are they planning to have for that? Actually, a better way to put it would be - how many closures did they originally plan for and how many are they actually going to have, on both the sub-surface and Overground lines? It's been, in effect, a complete station rebuild, with the SSR tracks moved, and all-new buildings. I imagine they always knew it would take a lot of line closures. |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
On 18/04/2017 12:40, Recliner wrote:
On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:03:38 +0100, Someone Somewhere wrote: Steve Fitzgerald ] wrote: The main work is Crossrail work at Whitechapel. Again? How many closures are they planning to have for that? Actually, a better way to put it would be - how many closures did they originally plan for and how many are they actually going to have, on both the sub-surface and Overground lines? It's been, in effect, a complete station rebuild, with the SSR tracks moved, and all-new buildings. I imagine they always knew it would take a lot of line closures. Apparently not - they have allegedly asked for a lot more than they originally planned because they got behind and several of them certainly seem to be at short notice (ie advertised a week or so in advance rather than months). |
Circle suspended but not Hammersmith & City
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:
On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:42:21 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 5:17:11 PM UTC+1, Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote: CIRCLE LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Hammersmith and Edgware Road. HAMMERSMITH & CITY LINE: Good Friday 14, Saturday 15, Sunday 16 and Easter Monday 17 April, no service between Liverpool Street and Barking. Trains will operate between Hammersmith and Aldgate. Why is the Circle suspended, but not the Hammersmith & City? Don't they share tracks? -- jhk Well, as a guess, I'd say that as there is no service between Liverpool Street and Barking, Hammersmith & City Line trains will fill out the schedule to Hammersmith so there will be no need and no requirement for Circle Line trains to provide the same service. to The "Weekend travel information" email says the reason for the Circle suspension is to test new signalling. Will the Hammersmith & City line trains run with the new signalling then? I've just received this week's email, and it sounds like they'll actually be doing the signal testing this weekend, not last: "Trains will not run between Edgware Road and Hammersmith. This is to allow us to test new signalling and replace track at Latimer Road. " |
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