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![]() "Dominic" wrote in message om... In article , Tom Anderson wrote: What's the point of trams? I'm not having a go, i just don't really understand what's so great about them. Not from the heavy rail side (they're obviously much cheaper and more flexible, whilst smaller and slower), but from the bus side. Yeah, why do we need trams? Here's my opinion - feel free to criticise it: 1. Buses are as fast as trams - even with diesel engines. If Croydon trams ran long sections on the road mixing with cars, or if London buses ran on a proper network of properly enforced bus lanes, that would become clear. The maximum acceleration of both buses and trams is set by passenger comfort - I reckon both can reach that maximum. While it is possible to design a bus with an engine that would give it such performance, this is not done because the size, weight, initial cost and increased fuel consumption of such a large engine increases the operating and capital costs without enough of a gain in performance for such technology to be justified. The nature of electric traction is such that it can be run at significantly higher than its maximum continuous power rating for a short period of time quite safely. This is very useful for accelerating rapidly and then maintaining that constant speed for a longer period. 2. Buses can easily rival trams at shifting passengers - just 2 of these 180 passenger Van Hool double-artic buses carry more than a Croydon tram: http://www.vanhool.com/products_bus_...Categ oryID=1 They're a bit unwieldy, but so would Croydon trams be if they really had to mix with the traffic! The confinement of a tram to the fixed swept path of the tramway makes them considerably more controlable in the sort of tight spaces encountered in London than such a bus. There is no guarantee that the middle and rear portion of the bus in that photograph will follow the same swept path as the front. Anecdotal evidence suggests that even with single articulated buses, there are problems arising from this. If you look at the way articulated buses attempt to pull over at a stop, you will see that they almost invariably end up with the front half pulled over and the rear still blocking the carriageway. 3. Buses ride just as well as trams, if you put them on a well surfaced road. Both can suffer from harsh braking when mixing with cars and pedestrians. There's nothing wrong with rubber tyres - they allow you to apply greater tractive and braking forces. That's why many Paris Metro trains have them. With magnetic track brakes as applied to all trams built for decades, the braking force available to a tram (the rate of deceleration possible) is appreciably greater than that possible with rubber tyres on tarmac. Buses only ride well if they run on a well maintained road. As the bus companies do not maintain their own roads, they tend to run on ill maintained roads. Trams ride well on well maintained track, but as tram tracks belong to the tram company, they tend to be well maintained. Acceleration of buses and trams is not limited by friction but by the power of the engines. The torque characteristics of an electric motor and their ability to overload means that, if they want to, they can out-accelerate just about any diesel engined bus at normal street conditions. So that's wrong on all these counts. 4. Diesel buses are more environmentally friendly than electric trams. Although buses produce more pollution at the point of use, trams produce more pollution overall - the electricity they run on has to be produced somewhere, and it's been through a lot of inefficient energy conversions by the time it reaches the tram. If you consider the full energy chain for each, you will see this is not the case. First of all, the rolling resistance for a tram is a fraction of that for the same weight of bus. Weight for weight, trams carry significantly more passengers because electric motors are much lighter than diesel engines, and they carry no fuel. This means that per passenger, they use less energy to move about. Because of the higher efficency of large power stations, and the relatively high efficiency of the national grid, per unit energy from combusted fuel to point of use at wheel tread, there is a slight advantage to buses, but this is of the order of about 5%, while the benefits of steel wheel and electric traction are more likely to be of the order of 20% on a per passenger basis. If you then consider the energy requirements to get fuel from where it comes out of the ground to the location of consumption, and any refining process, you find that diesel fuel is substantially worse off there (coal and natural gas require no refinenemt for use in a power station, and nuclear fuel is used in such tiny quantities for the energy released, these costs are minute in energy terms). The common fallacy you are falling victim to is considering only the thermodynamic efficiency from combustion to power at the wheel tread, not looking at the power demands, or the requirement to get the right fuel to the point of combustion. 5. Buses could have the "wow factor" and desirability of trams, if they were made to look more exciting. Designs like the Wright Eclipse Gemini are heading in the right direction. But buses will always lack the permanent advertisement of their route provided by the fixed infrastructure. If I look at the road in front of my house, there is no evidence that there are two bus routes down it. If there were a tramline down the road, there would be. 6. One final point - buses require no fixed infrastructure to be built on their route. You can run them on the road - brilliant! If there are roadworks, you drive around them! Wrong again. you can't run a bus over a field, you need some fixed infrastructure called a road. To give the bus adequate reliability, you need more infrastructure such as a bus lane. If nothing but buses use the bus lane ever, then the costs of maintaining that bus lane must be attributed to the bus services that use it. the point services are diverted from under tramways is so that there *aren*t roadworks on the tram's path. Robin |