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Heathrow Hyperloop hype
"Someone Somewhere" wrote in message news On 15/01/2018 16:29, Recliner wrote: Graeme Wall wrote: On 15/01/2018 11:04, Someone Somewhere wrote: On 15/01/2018 09:19, Recliner wrote: Here's the latest hyperloop hype from CES, now proposed as a means of providing very fast links between Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted, instead of a new runway: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2018/01/14/build-heathrow-gatwick-hyperloop-instead-third-runway-says-branson/ snip hyperloop ******** Whilst the idea of linking all the London airports is sensible and reasonable, how does it do away with the need for a third runway? Last time I checked slots were at a premium at all London airports and it's not like they're being used for inter-London flights is it? Now, the third runway could be a second runway at Gatwick or whatever, but you still need more overall capacity surely? Arguably a second runway at Gatwick is more practical and a lot cheaper than a third at Heathrow. But the former directly affects more tory voters than the latter. The commission found that both the costs and the benefits were lower at Gatwick, but Heathrow was better overall. But isn't the point of this discussion that if (and it's a whopping great if) using the Hyperloop technology could give us inter-airport transfers in the time it typically takes to change terminals in an airport then that might change the dynamics and cost-benefit analysis of where to put additional airport capacity in the overall London area. Personally I'm still a fan of building an aiport in the middle of the Severn estuary on a tidal barrage and connecting that with Heathrow (and Gatwick/Stansted/Luton) via Hyperloop along the Great Western alignment (which is pretty flat and straight). Benefits would be that the airport would generate a massive amount of green power for the rest of the country, you'd gain a further west road link between South Wales and the South West (you might as well put a big road on top of the tidal barrage as well), the Hyperloop would improve transport to South Wales / South West, and you'd have an aiport that was marginally closer to the USA but most importantly could be far enough from population centres that it could operate 24x7 with impunity.... you are Michael Bell AICMFP tim |
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Heathrow Hyperloop hype
"Robin9" wrote in message ... I'll believe it when I see it working. I'm not sure many people will like the idea of being transported in a long tube at 670 mph. like wot that are now you mean tim |
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Wall) wrote: On 15/01/2018 10:08, Roland Perry wrote: In message - september.org, at 09:19:31 on Mon, 15 Jan 2018, Recliner remarked: Here's the latest hyperloop hype from CES, now proposed as a means of providing very fast links between Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted, instead of a new runway: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...w-gatwick-hype rloop-instead-third-runway-says-branson/ Some rather older hype, which also reminded me of current hype-infested discussions of autonomous cars and/or driverless/electric parcel delivery in London: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTkua8qU8AAno6_.jpg Good find. Someone tweeted it this afternoon. -- Colin Rosenstiel |
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Heathrow Hyperloop hype
On 15/01/2018 11:47, tim... wrote:
I.e. there's zero demand for a 01:00 departure AND a 04:00 landing. People might suffer one or the other (for a medium/long haul destination), but not both. I've done midnight-ish to rancid o'clock in the morning flights from Luton to eastern Europe, and they weren't empty. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 14:33:05 -0000, "tim..."
wrote: "Graeme Wall" wrote in message news Arguably a second runway at Gatwick is more practical and a lot cheaper than a third at Heathrow. But the former directly affects more tory voters than the latter. in seats that they have zero chance of losing, no matter how much they **** them off In 2015, 98% of Scottish Labour MPs discovered that doesn't always work. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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Heathrow Hyperloop hype
On 15/01/2018 17:33, tim... wrote:
"Someone Somewhere" wrote in message you are Michael Bell AICMFP Who's that? |
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Heathrow Hyperloop hype
On 15/01/18 21:19, Someone Somewhere wrote:
On 15/01/2018 17:33, tim... wrote: "Someone Somewhere" wrote in message you are Michael Bell AICMFP Who's that? Mr. Bell was, until recently, a regular contributor to uk.railway. He suggested a number of schemes which were financially or technically unproven. The most notable was an alternative to HS2: a þ (thorn) shaped route, with stations on a loop of cities which he styled Ringby, continuing via Middlesbrough to Scotland. |
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On 16/01/2018 00:26, Certes wrote:
On 15/01/18 21:19, Someone Somewhere wrote: On 15/01/2018 17:33, tim... wrote: "Someone Somewhere" wrote in message you are Michael Bell AICMFP Who's that? Mr. Bell was, until recently, a regular contributor to uk.railway. He suggested a number of schemes which were financially or technically unproven.Â* The most notable was an alternative to HS2: a þ (thorn) shaped route, with stations on a loop of cities which he styled Ringby, continuing via Middlesbrough to Scotland. Ah - that's not me! I just thought that with the absurdly optimistic claims for the Hyperloop system that we might as well take it to its full extent and suggest something truly radical for it. |
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