In message , at 09:49:21 on Mon, 30
Apr 2018, Clive Page remarked:

It also says (a deal-breaker for me) that it you already have a
National Rail discount on your old card you will need to get it set up
again on the new one. That can take an awful lot of time as it's only
done by suitably clued-up member of their roving staff at an
underground station.

It's not *that* bad. After I eventually prised him away (which he
appeared to resent somewhat) from chatting idly to a colleague, a
"roving" chap at Kings Cross added my railcard in a minute or two.

My main question would be - how can I tell if my card is an "old" one?
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote on 30 Apr 2018 at 11:12 ...
In message , at 09:49:21 on Mon, 30
Apr 2018, Clive Page remarked:

It also says (a deal-breaker for me) that it you already have a
National Rail discount on your old card you will need to get it set up
again on the new one. That can take an awful lot of time as it's only
done by suitably clued-up member of their roving staff at an
underground station.

It's not *that* bad. After I eventually prised him away (which he
appeared to resent somewhat) from chatting idly to a colleague, a
"roving" chap at Kings Cross added my railcard in a minute or two.

My main question would be - how can I tell if my card is an "old" one?

Second-generation cards have a "D" before 'Mayor of London' on the back of the card. The "D" is white on a blue square. First-generation cards don't have a "D".
https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...n-oyster-cards

--
Richard J.
(to email me, swap 'uk' and 'yon' in address)

In message , at 11:40:15 on Mon, 30 Apr
2018, Richard J. remarked:

My main question would be - how can I tell if my card is an "old"
one?

Second-generation cards have a "D" before 'Mayor of London' on the back of the card. The "D" is white on a blue square. First-generation cards
don't have a "D".

Thanks. I'm second generation. I wonder what became of my definitely
first generation one? Must have lost it I suppose.
--
Roland Perry

In article ,
Roland Perry wrote:
Thanks. I'm second generation. I wonder what became of my definitely
first generation one? Must have lost it I suppose.

If you registered it on the TfL web site you can refund it to your
bank account. No physical card needed. I refunded one that I lent to
a friend who then lost it.

--
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John Levine, , Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

On 30/04/2018 11:12, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:49:21 on Mon, 30
Apr 2018, Clive Page remarked:

It also says (a deal-breaker for me) that it you already have a
National Rail discount on your old card you will need to get it set up
again on the new one.Â* That can take an awful lot of time as it's only
done by suitably clued-up member of their roving staff at an
underground station.

It's not *that* bad. After I eventually prised him away (which he
appeared to resent somewhat) from chatting idly to a colleague, a
"roving" chap at Kings Cross added my railcard in a minute or two.

Piccadilly Circus wrongly told me it could only be done at some kind of
tourist information centre(?). A roving person at KXStP just did it on
the spot. I suspect places linked to National Rail might be more clued up.



--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

In message , at
18:33:24 on Tue, 1 May 2018, Arthur Figgis
remarked:
It also says (a deal-breaker for me) that it you already have a
National Rail discount on your old card you will need to get it set
up again on the new one.* That can take an awful lot of time as it's
only done by suitably clued-up member of their roving staff at an
underground station.
It's not *that* bad. After I eventually prised him away (which he
appeared to resent somewhat) from chatting idly to a colleague, a
"roving" chap at Kings Cross added my railcard in a minute or two.

Piccadilly Circus wrongly told me it could only be done at some kind of
tourist information centre(?).

Those are the handful of TfL operated "Let us sell you a tourist-tax
priced ticket to Madame Tussauds" places, one of which is at the very
west end (upstairs) of the St Pancras southern ticket hall. Another is
(was?) on the front of the Euston concourse near the down-escalators to
the tube.

Despite much disinformation, they are absolutely not the place to buy,
or get advice about, travel tickets.
--
Roland Perry

Roland Perry wrote:


Those are the handful of TfL operated "Let us sell you a tourist-tax
priced ticket to Madame Tussauds" places, one of which is at the very
west end (upstairs) of the St Pancras southern ticket hall.

Despite much disinformation, they are absolutely not the place to buy,
or get advice about, travel tickets.

Isn't that the truth? I had a couple of Oyster Visitor cards I wanted to
transfer balances to my regular Oyster cards. All they would do is point me
towards the kiosks and suggest I get a refund from the machine.