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Tom Cordiner April 11th 04 07:49 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
Hello,

I wonder if this was ever discussed in 2001. I have tried googling, with no
luck.

Just curious as to whether:

Watford Stadium All Zones First Class Annual Travelcard and any issue to do
with it

means anything to anyone?

Sorry to be a little cryptic... Ring any bells?

Thanks,

Tom



Peter Smyth April 11th 04 08:35 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Tom Cordiner" wrote in message
...
Hello,

I wonder if this was ever discussed in 2001. I have tried googling, with

no
luck.

Just curious as to whether:

Watford Stadium All Zones First Class Annual Travelcard and any issue to

do
with it

means anything to anyone?

Sorry to be a little cryptic... Ring any bells?


I doubt if such a ticket ever existed. I don't think Watford Stadium ever
had a regular service so it is unlikely there would be a season ticket
available from there.

Peter Smyth



Tom Cordiner April 11th 04 09:53 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...

I doubt if such a ticket ever existed. I don't think Watford Stadium ever
had a regular service so it is unlikely there would be a season ticket
available from there.

Peter Smyth


I *know* it did. I have held one in my hand :)

I wonder if anyone else knows what I am talking about. Specifically with
reference to 2001.

Again, sorry to be cryptic but I thought it might have reached
uk.transport.london in the past.


Tom




Stephen Furley April 11th 04 10:35 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Tom Cordiner" wrote in message
...

"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...

I doubt if such a ticket ever existed. I don't think Watford Stadium

ever
had a regular service so it is unlikely there would be a season ticket
available from there.

Peter Smyth


I *know* it did. I have held one in my hand :)

I wonder if anyone else knows what I am talking about. Specifically with
reference to 2001.

Again, sorry to be cryptic but I thought it might have reached
uk.transport.london in the past.


Tom

Well, as Peter said, it never had a regular service, and by 2001 it had
closed anyway, so such a thing wouldn't have existed as a genuine ticket.
My best guess would be a mock ticket, held by a character in a film or
television programme.

If this had been from pre-APTIS days it could also have been a mis-print.
Just before Edmondson stock was phased out somewhere in East London, I think
it was either Forest Gate or Maryland, had ticket stock for Stratford which
had been mis-printed Stafford. I'm not sure how long these lasted for, but
I did manage to get one. I wonder what would have happened if you tried to
travel to Stafford with one.



Ian F. April 11th 04 10:42 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
"Tom Cordiner" wrote in message
...

Again, sorry to be cryptic but I thought it might have reached
uk.transport.london in the past.


There are several mentions of Watford Stadium station in past threads on
various ngs - try searching on Google Groups.

Ian


Richard J. April 11th 04 10:55 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
Ian F. wrote:
"Tom Cordiner" wrote in message
...

Again, sorry to be cryptic but I thought it might have reached
uk.transport.london in the past.


There are several mentions of Watford Stadium station in past
threads on various ngs - try searching on Google Groups.


The only usenet reference to both "Watford Stadium" and "First Class" is
a uk.railway thread from 2003 at http://tinyurl.com/yvhj5

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Tom Cordiner April 11th 04 11:17 PM

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"Richard J." wrote in message
...

The only usenet reference to both "Watford Stadium" and "First Class" is
a uk.railway thread from 2003 at http://tinyurl.com/yvhj5


Indeed.

It is specifically this ticket, not that station generally.

It's a long and convoluted story. I wondered if any NGers had heard it,
that's all. I am not setting this a test, sorry if it came across a bit
weird.

Genuinely curious as to whether it was at all known.

Tom



Tom Cordiner April 11th 04 11:20 PM

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"Stephen Furley" wrote in message
.. .

Well, as Peter said, it never had a regular service, and by 2001 it had
closed anyway, so such a thing wouldn't have existed as a genuine ticket.
My best guess would be a mock ticket, held by a character in a film or
television programme.


Nope.

It did exist. Was in NFM. At least 20 existed.

If this had been from pre-APTIS days it could also have been a mis-print.
Just before Edmondson stock was phased out somewhere in East London, I

think
it was either Forest Gate or Maryland, had ticket stock for Stratford

which
had been mis-printed Stafford. I'm not sure how long these lasted for,

but
I did manage to get one. I wonder what would have happened if you tried

to
travel to Stafford with one.


Interesting, but not right in this case.

Thanks for replies though.

Tom



Tom Cordiner April 11th 04 11:30 PM

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"Ian F." wrote in message
...

There are several mentions of Watford Stadium station in past threads on
various ngs - try searching on Google Groups.


As per original post, I, of course, tried google first.

There are, indeed, several mentions of Watford Stadium station, but none
pertinent to my post. I am ill and bored on a long weekend, so I may have
missed one, of course!

Tom





Bill Hayles April 12th 04 08:03 AM

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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:53:36 +0100, "Tom Cordiner"
wrote:


"Peter Smyth" wrote in message
...

I doubt if such a ticket ever existed. I don't think Watford Stadium ever
had a regular service so it is unlikely there would be a season ticket
available from there.

Peter Smyth


I *know* it did. I have held one in my hand :)



Be careful.

There are 100 platform tickets floating around for Lullingstone, a
station that was built in the late 1930s between Swanley and
Eynsford, but never opened as a result of WW2..

I was the person who ordered them. It's a story I've told before,
but although the tickets are real, they're not authentic - they were
issued in 1982!

It could be that a similar thing happened in the appropriate DMO.


--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com

Tom Cordiner April 12th 04 10:05 AM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Bill Hayles" wrote in message
...

There are 100 platform tickets floating around for Lullingstone, a
station that was built in the late 1930s between Swanley and
Eynsford, but never opened as a result of WW2..

I was the person who ordered them. It's a story I've told before,
but although the tickets are real, they're not authentic - they were
issued in 1982!

It could be that a similar thing happened in the appropriate DMO.


Ok, as all sorts of theories, interesting stories though, are coming up. If
anyone has the appropriate Fares Manual for 2001, they should have a look at
this ticket therein.

Tom






James April 12th 04 04:12 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
There are 100 platform tickets floating around for Lullingstone, a
station that was built in the late 1930s between Swanley and
Eynsford, but never opened as a result of WW2..


That must have been very close to Eynsford station. Presumably it was
located at the road leading out of Eynsford to Lullingstone Roman
Villa. Was the intention to close Eynsford?

Roland Perry April 12th 04 08:27 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
In message , Tom Cordiner
writes
Ok, as all sorts of theories, interesting stories though, are coming up. If
anyone has the appropriate Fares Manual for 2001, they should have a look at
this ticket therein.


Do you know what they are likely to find? Is this (apparently
non-existent) ticket some kind of James Bond membership card??
--
Roland Perry

Tom Cordiner April 12th 04 09:12 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

Do you know what they are likely to find? Is this (apparently
non-existent) ticket some kind of James Bond membership card??


hehe

No, nothing *that* interesting at all :)

The Manual, and Tribute, contained a fairly massive error on this ticket
which was exploited by a number of lucky (if dishonest) people. My post
merely came out of wondering if this was known at the time at all.

Tom



Roland Perry April 12th 04 09:28 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
In message , Tom Cordiner
writes
The Manual, and Tribute, contained a fairly massive error on this ticket
which was exploited by a number of lucky (if dishonest) people. My post
merely came out of wondering if this was known at the time at all.


Ah, was it perhaps priced *far* too cheaply?
--
Roland Perry

Tom Cordiner April 12th 04 09:39 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Roland Perry" wrote in message
...

Ah, was it perhaps priced *far* too cheaply?


*Far, far, far*

As were the weekly and monthly versions of the ticket as well.



Roland Perry April 12th 04 10:02 PM

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In message , Tom Cordiner
writes
*Far, far, far*


It was free, perhaps? (Or maybe the price of a platform ticket)?
--
Roland Perry

Ben Nunn April 13th 04 08:54 AM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
Unless I'm very much mistaken, it was James ), in
message who said:
There are 100 platform tickets floating around for Lullingstone, a
station that was built in the late 1930s between Swanley and
Eynsford, but never opened as a result of WW2..


That must have been very close to Eynsford station. Presumably it was
located at the road leading out of Eynsford to Lullingstone Roman
Villa. Was the intention to close Eynsford?



No, it wasn't *that* close to Eynsford and the plan was to expand the
surrounding area with new development, and the station was to be built as a
part of this - e.g. there would be a load of commuterland pretty much
stretching between the two stations.

In the event, neither actually happened, with post-war greenbelt legislation
probably playing some part, although the station platforms were still in
situ last time I went through the station - probably about 8 years ago.

BTN



Bill Hayles April 13th 04 11:51 AM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
On 12 Apr 2004 09:12:06 -0700, (James) wrote:

There are 100 platform tickets floating around for Lullingstone, a
station that was built in the late 1930s between Swanley and
Eynsford, but never opened as a result of WW2..


That must have been very close to Eynsford station. Presumably it was
located at the road leading out of Eynsford to Lullingstone Roman
Villa. Was the intention to close Eynsford?


No, it was at the southern end of Eynsford tunnel. The buildings
lasted for many years, until they were used in the reconstruction of
Canterbury East in 1959. The up platform was still much in evidence
when I worked the line in the eighties. It may well still be.

There were plans to build a big housing estate in the area. The
nearest road is Crockenhill Lane, which leads from Eynsford to
Crockenhill.

--
Bill Hayles

http://billnot.com

Stimpy April 13th 04 06:12 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , Tom Cordiner
writes
*Far, far, far*


It was free, perhaps? (Or maybe the price of a platform ticket)?


Maybe a £0.01 price (or similar token amount) was entered as the price on
the basis that the station wasn't in regular use?



Tom Cordiner April 14th 04 05:45 PM

Watford Stadium First Class Annual Travelcard
 

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Maybe a £0.01 price (or similar token amount) was entered as the price on
the basis that the station wasn't in regular use?


Not quite.

The prices entered were 3.50 for the weekly, 14 for the monthly and 140 for
the annual. Remember this is a *first class* all zones travelcard (the
correct price would be around 3000 for the annual)

Anyway, I have no idea how it got in the Manual (and thus Tribute), or how
someone then noticed it but several were bought and used for a year in gates
across London! Not sure how I view it ethically, but I wonder how often such
things happen.

Not that interesting, but am surprised it didn't get to the ears of
uk.transport.london at the time.

Tom




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