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On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 07:41:10 +0100, Roland Perry
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"Transport for London confirmed to the Guardian that 4G mobile
phone technology would go live in tunnels on most of the Jubilee
line from March 2020 and on other lines in the coming years."


Wouldn't it be more forward-thinking to go for 5G?

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In message , at 12:27:14 on
Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:
"Transport for London confirmed to the Guardian that 4G mobile
phone technology would go live in tunnels on most of the Jubilee
line from March 2020 and on other lines in the coming years."


Wouldn't it be more forward-thinking to go for 5G?


No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.
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On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:13:17 +0100, Roland Perry
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No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.


Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?

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No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.


Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?


Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise for a
large government IT project!
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On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47 on
Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.


Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?


Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise for a
large government IT project!


It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

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In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
on Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?

Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for a large government IT project!


It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?


I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn
out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as less
effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.
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On 31/07/2019 14:00, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
onÂ* Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Â*Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for aÂ* large government IT project!


It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?


I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn
out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as less
effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.


Wasn't it also the lack of development of the standard and basically
being stuck on GPRS like speeds?

What's concerning is that they are still rolling out a 4G solution when
5G is already here...
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On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:00:30 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
on Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for a large government IT project!


It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?


I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn


Not that old in radio terms. Plod was still using motorola analogue trunking
systems only 15 years ago - I used to listen to them on a scanner. Tetra is
a lot newer than DAB!

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