In message , at 12:27:14 on
Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:
"Transport for London confirmed to the Guardian that 4G mobile
phone technology would go live in tunnels on most of the Jubilee
line from March 2020 and on other lines in the coming years."

Wouldn't it be more forward-thinking to go for 5G?

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.
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Roland Perry

On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 12:13:17 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:


No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?

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jhk

In message , at 13:55:47 on
Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?

Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise for a
large government IT project!
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Roland Perry

On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47 on
Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?

Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise for a
large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

Ria in Aberdeen

In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
on Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for a large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn
out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as less
effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.
--
Roland Perry

On 31/07/2019 14:00, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
onÂ* Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Â*Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for aÂ* large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn
out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as less
effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.

Wasn't it also the lack of development of the standard and basically
being stuck on GPRS like speeds?

What's concerning is that they are still rolling out a 4G solution when
5G is already here...

In message , at 16:00:22 on Wed, 31 Jul
2019, Someone Somewhere remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
*Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for a* large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?
I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing
worn out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as
less effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.

Wasn't it also the lack of development of the standard and basically
being stuck on GPRS like speeds?

Yes, that's part of it. And the new handsets are also half the price of
Airwave ones.

What's concerning is that they are still rolling out a 4G solution when
5G is already here...

The Emergency Network requires the whole country to be flooded with 4G.
They aren't even sufficiently close to that yet. Let alone start from
scratch with 5G.

The original switch-off date for Airwave was supposed to be the end of
2019. Many don't expect that to happen for a least five years, and
that's sticking with 4G.
--
Roland Perry

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:00:22 +0100, Someone Somewhere
wrote:

On 31/07/2019 14:00, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
onÂ* Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Â*Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for aÂ* large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn
out equipment and paying ongoing licence fees, was regarded as less
effective than using an 'open source' idea like 4G.

Wasn't it also the lack of development of the standard and basically
being stuck on GPRS like speeds?

What's concerning is that they are still rolling out a 4G solution when
5G is already here...

Whe haven't finished rolling out our Tetra ntework in Norway yet...

--
jhk

On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 14:00:30 +0100
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:45:00 on Wed, 31
Jul 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On Tue 30/07/2019 14:04, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 13:55:47
on Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Jarle Hammen Knudsen remarked:

No, because the emergency services contract (which this is
piggy-backed
upon) is 4G.

Is this something to replace the tetra based network in the UK?
Yes. And it's also much delayed. But that's not really a surprise
for a large government IT project!

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn

Not that old in radio terms. Plod was still using motorola analogue trunking
systems only 15 years ago - I used to listen to them on a scanner. Tetra is
a lot newer than DAB!

In message , at 19:20:32 on Wed, 31 Jul
2019, remarked:

It's also going to be a total waste of time and money. Tetra just
worked, why change it..?

I think the problem is it's proprietary, and rather old. Replacing worn

Not that old in radio terms. Plod was still using motorola analogue trunking
systems only 15 years ago - I used to listen to them on a scanner. Tetra is
a lot newer than DAB!

The equipment's old, not the technology (although most would agree it's
no-longer-fit-for-purpose old.
--
Roland Perry