London Transport (uk.transport.london) Discussion of all forms of transport in London.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #21   Report Post  
Old September 23rd 19, 06:47 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,839
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

In message , at 17:44:11 on Mon, 23
Sep 2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:

*It was almost universally referred to as "a bus".

Wrongly.


Doesn't matter. It's a slogan. Like "battle bus".


It's still wrong.


https://xkcd.com/386/

--
Roland Perry

  #22   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 08:05 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,839
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

In message , at 16:13:12 on Sun, 22 Sep 2019,
Roland Perry remarked:

"One of Northern Ireland's biggest employers faces a crunch week as
Wrightbus, which employs 1,400 staff, attempts to stave off collapse by
securing a last-minute rescue deal.

Mounting financial problems at the Ballymena-based company have left it
looking for a buyer, with the Chinese engineering group Weichai and a
firm led by the JCB heir, Jo Bamford, understood to be the suitors in
talks. However, local MP Ian Paisley told the BBC on Friday he
understood talks with the two potential buyers had failed to reach a
conclusion."


‘Administration now inevitable,’ says Paisley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49818156

A week to find a buyer. Probably this month's wages bill which has
pushed them over the edge.

In other news, Uber London given two months to prove it's fit and proper
for a new licence:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49810049
--
Roland Perry
  #23   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 08:24 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Jul 2019
Posts: 350
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:13:12 on Sun, 22 Sep 2019,
Roland Perry remarked:

"One of Northern Ireland's biggest employers faces a crunch week as
Wrightbus, which employs 1,400 staff, attempts to stave off collapse by
securing a last-minute rescue deal.

Mounting financial problems at the Ballymena-based company have left it
looking for a buyer, with the Chinese engineering group Weichai and a
firm led by the JCB heir, Jo Bamford, understood to be the suitors in
talks. However, local MP Ian Paisley told the BBC on Friday he
understood talks with the two potential buyers had failed to reach a
conclusion."


‘Administration now inevitable,’ says Paisley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49818156

A week to find a buyer. Probably this month's wages bill which has
pushed them over the edge.



I hadn't realised that the UK bus market was in such decline:

"Latest accounts show that the Wrightbus group lost £1.7m on a turnover of
£227m in 2017.

But its financial situation has deteriorated since then.

It made two rounds of redundancies last year with 95 jobs going in February
and June, which it said reflected continued low levels of demand for new
buses in the UK market.

The UK has traditionally been Wrightbus's biggest market but it has been
contracting for over two years.

Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."


  #24   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 09:42 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,839
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

In message , at 07:24:09 on Wed, 25
Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:13:12 on Sun, 22 Sep 2019,
Roland Perry remarked:

"One of Northern Ireland's biggest employers faces a crunch week as
Wrightbus, which employs 1,400 staff, attempts to stave off collapse by
securing a last-minute rescue deal.

Mounting financial problems at the Ballymena-based company have left it
looking for a buyer, with the Chinese engineering group Weichai and a
firm led by the JCB heir, Jo Bamford, understood to be the suitors in
talks. However, local MP Ian Paisley told the BBC on Friday he
understood talks with the two potential buyers had failed to reach a
conclusion."


‘Administration now inevitable,’ says Paisley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49818156

A week to find a buyer. Probably this month's wages bill which has
pushed them over the edge.



I hadn't realised that the UK bus market was in such decline:

"Latest accounts show that the Wrightbus group lost £1.7m on a turnover of
£227m in 2017.

But its financial situation has deteriorated since then.

It made two rounds of redundancies last year with 95 jobs going in February
and June, which it said reflected continued low levels of demand for new
buses in the UK market.

The UK has traditionally been Wrightbus's biggest market but it has been
contracting for over two years.

Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."


We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.
--
Roland Perry
  #25   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 11:43 AM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Jul 2019
Posts: 350
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 09:42:35 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 07:24:09 on Wed, 25
Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:13:12 on Sun, 22 Sep 2019,
Roland Perry remarked:

"One of Northern Ireland's biggest employers faces a crunch week as
Wrightbus, which employs 1,400 staff, attempts to stave off collapse by
securing a last-minute rescue deal.

Mounting financial problems at the Ballymena-based company have left it
looking for a buyer, with the Chinese engineering group Weichai and a
firm led by the JCB heir, Jo Bamford, understood to be the suitors in
talks. However, local MP Ian Paisley told the BBC on Friday he
understood talks with the two potential buyers had failed to reach a
conclusion."

Administration now inevitable, says Paisley:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49818156

A week to find a buyer. Probably this month's wages bill which has
pushed them over the edge.



I hadn't realised that the UK bus market was in such decline:

"Latest accounts show that the Wrightbus group lost 1.7m on a turnover of
227m in 2017.

But its financial situation has deteriorated since then.

It made two rounds of redundancies last year with 95 jobs going in February
and June, which it said reflected continued low levels of demand for new
buses in the UK market.

The UK has traditionally been Wrightbus's biggest market but it has been
contracting for over two years.

Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."


We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.


I suppose I'm biased by being in London, where there always seem to be
new buses


  #26   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 12:18 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Aug 2003
Posts: 9,839
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

In message , at 11:43:35 on
Wed, 25 Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."


We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.


I suppose I'm biased by being in London, where there always seem to be
new buses


The registrations are 'only' down 30%, not 100%.
--
Roland Perry
  #27   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 02:44 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Feb 2016
Posts: 958
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue



"MissRiaElaine" wrote in message
...
On 23/09/2019 14:43, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 14:03:38 on Mon, 23 Sep
2019, MissRiaElaine remarked:
On 23/09/2019 10:16, Marland wrote:
Roland Perry wrote:


Indeed. Wright is probably right down on Boris's list of concerns,
behind
Jennifer Arcuri, the Supreme Court verdict, the party conference, the
EU
negotiations, the looming election,

I doubt he's worried very much (unless the factory is in a DUP area)
but
it's simply anther example of Boris + Bus (be that painted-on-the-side
or painted-as-a-hobby, as well as Roastmaster) looks like a fatal
combination.
When he said he painted model buses as a hobby I still haven’t decided
if
he was telling the truth ( is he capable?) or was just having a joke at
the
expense of those who often refer to that campaign bus with the somewhat
misleading slogan on the side.

Misleading slogan or not, it was a coach, not a bus. When did it ever
stop to pick up fare-paying passengers..?


It was almost universally referred to as "a bus".


Wrongly.


and when did that stop newspapers perpetuating a theme

Don't they still write about "Road Tax"

tim



  #28   Report Post  
Old September 25th 19, 10:58 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Jul 2019
Posts: 350
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:43:35 on
Wed, 25 Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT) show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."

We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.


I suppose I'm biased by being in London, where there always seem to be
new buses


The registrations are 'only' down 30%, not 100%.


It seems that Wrightbus had failed to take advantage of the switch to
battery buses, and had also donated over £16m — more than enough to keep
the business afloat — to the family church:

"The parent company of Wrights Group also donated more than £16.1m to
charity between 2012 and 2017. Those donations helped to fund the expansion
of Green Pastures, an influential evangelical church in Ballymena run by
Jeff Wright ."

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/25/wrightbus-goes-into-administration-1400-jobs-routemaster-northern-ireland

In an interview with The Irish Times in November 2017, pastor Jeff [Wright]
noted that Cornerstone “made God a shareholder in the business” as 26 per
cent of Wrights is owned by the evangelical trust.

Despite being primed to take over the bus builder, pastor Jeff told The
Irish Times he felt God had a new question for him. “Do you love me more
than these buses?’ I said, ‘yeah, I do’. So God said ‘I want you to feed my
lambs and take care of my sheep’.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/manufacturing/wrightbus-donated-4m-to-christian-charities-in-2017-1.4030436

  #29   Report Post  
Old September 26th 19, 02:45 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Feb 2016
Posts: 958
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue



"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:43:35 on
Wed, 25 Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT)
show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach
registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."

We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and
your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.

I suppose I'm biased by being in London, where there always seem to be
new buses


The registrations are 'only' down 30%, not 100%.


It seems that Wrightbus had failed to take advantage of the switch to
battery buses,


I'm not sure that "taking advantage of" is the right phase here

"investing tens of million in development" is what you really mean

But did they have that 10s of millions.

tim

  #30   Report Post  
Old September 26th 19, 03:18 PM posted to uk.transport.london
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity at LondonBanter: Jul 2019
Posts: 350
Default Boris's bus related jinxes continue

On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:45:47 +0100, "tim..."
wrote:



"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:43:35 on
Wed, 25 Sep 2019, Recliner remarked:
Figures from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT)
show
that in the second quarter of this year new bus and coach
registrations are
down 30% compared to the same period last year.

That marks the tenth quarter in a row that new registrations have
declined."

We are on the verge of a recession, the future looks uncertain, and
your
fleet is probably fully compliant with latest regs. Why as an operator
would you start buying new buses?

Of the bigger bus operators, only Go-Ahead are doing well, with both
First and Stagecoach in trouble.

I suppose I'm biased by being in London, where there always seem to be
new buses

The registrations are 'only' down 30%, not 100%.


It seems that Wrightbus had failed to take advantage of the switch to
battery buses,


I'm not sure that "taking advantage of" is the right phase here

"investing tens of million in development" is what you really mean

But did they have that 10s of millions.


It seems Jeff Wright preferred to fund his church rather than his bus
business.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[London] transport related sights Alan \(in Brussels\) London Transport 8 March 8th 05 11:21 PM
[London] transport related sights Roland Perry London Transport 0 March 8th 05 07:56 AM
[London] transport related sights John Ray London Transport 0 March 7th 05 10:07 AM
[London] transport related sights Alek London Transport 3 March 7th 05 05:08 AM
Travelcards failing (Oyster related) Nicholas F Hodder London Transport 2 October 19th 03 11:08 AM


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:09 PM.

Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2020 London Banter.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about London Transport"

 

Copyright © 2017