TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter:
Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport We have introduced an enhanced cleaning regime to improve the already high hygiene levels on London's public transport. While Public Health England has stated there are no specific concerns about using public transport, TfL has chosen to make improvements to its well-established cleaning programme. Cleaning across the Tube and bus network now includes additional substances that kill viruses and bacteria on contact in order to reduce the risk of coronavirus spreading. Our trains, stations and buses are already professionally cleaned daily, but last Friday we began to roll out an enhanced anti-viral fluid on Tube trains and stations to provide added protection. Key interchanges will be cleaned more regularly than usual, including during the day. All buses will now be carefully wiped down with strong disinfectant every day in regular touched areas, such as poles and doors. We will also use this disinfectant in depots and drivers' cabs, which were previously cleaned regularly with traditional disinfectant. We are also in the final testing stages of a new, longer lasting cleaning agent that would provide anti-viral protection for up to 30 days. We hope to begin using it across the network in the next couple of weeks. In the meantime, Public Health England urges everyone to wash their hands regularly throughout the day, before eating and when arriving at work or home. Following this advice ensures that using public transport is as safe as the rest of the city. By using enhanced fluids with anti-viral qualities, we aim to make it even safer. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000
Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
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TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 18:35:09 +0000
MikeS wrote: On 13/03/2020 16:11, wrote: On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000 Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. Your comments are nonsense. So far the number of cases in London is minute and that is one driver out of thousands. It is impossible to claim that the entire network is already infected so hardly "a bit too late". People are infections for about FIVE days BEFORE symptoms appear. He could potentially have infected dozes or hundreds of people before he fell ill and they in turn etc etc ... Do you understand how these sort of diseases spread? As for "not much use against an airborne virus", the entire public health advice is to wash hands and avoid touching the face because the main route for transmission is touch. You can also catch a cold or flu from touching something with the virus on. Are you going to suggest they're not airborn diseases either? |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:15:54 +0000
Ian Jackson wrote: In message , writes On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000 Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. It appears that the driver had not actually gone back to work, so there's little chance that he would have infected the underground. Where was he for the five days before he had symptoms while he was unknowingly infecting others? |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:15:54 +0000 Ian Jackson wrote: In message , writes On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000 Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. It appears that the driver had not actually gone back to work, so there's little chance that he would have infected the underground. Where was he for the five days before he had symptoms while he was unknowingly infecting others? The Tube driver is self-isolating, and the train and depot he worked in is being deep-cleaned, TfL said. The driver said he had not worked in any public-facing job since returning from Vietnam. A spokesman added: "The safety of our staff and customers is our top priority and we are taking all necessary precautions. "The areas where the driver worked are being cleaned, including the depot and the trains, in line with guidance from Public Health England with whom we are working closely." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51868904 |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
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2020, Recliner remarked: wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:15:54 +0000 Ian Jackson wrote: In message , writes On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000 Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. It appears that the driver had not actually gone back to work, so there's little chance that he would have infected the underground. Where was he for the five days before he had symptoms while he was unknowingly infecting others? The Tube driver is self-isolating, and the train and depot he worked in is being deep-cleaned, TfL said. The driver said he had not worked in any public-facing job since returning from Vietnam. What exactly does that mean? That he was only shunting trains around the depot, or that he was driving trains but had never walked through one (eg to change ends). A spokesman added: "The safety of our staff and customers is our top priority and we are taking all necessary precautions. "The areas where the driver worked are being cleaned, including the depot and the trains, in line with guidance from Public Health England with whom we are working closely." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51868904 -- Roland Perry |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 09:42:29 -0000 (UTC)
Billy No Mates wrote: wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 08:15:54 +0000 Ian Jackson wrote: In message , writes On Fri, 13 Mar 2020 15:37:08 +0000 Billy No Mates wrote: This is an extract from the weekly TfL newsletter: Enhanced cleaning regime for public transport Given one of their drivers has gone down with it I suspect its a bit too late. Not that its much use against an airborn virus anyway but it probably makes companies look like they're being proactive doing this sort of thing. It appears that the driver had not actually gone back to work, so there's little chance that he would have infected the underground. Where was he for the five days before he had symptoms while he was unknowingly infecting others? The Tube driver is self-isolating, and the train and depot he worked in is being deep-cleaned, TfL said. The driver said he had not worked in any public-facing job since returning from Vietnam. And so long as he had the plane to himself , didn't interact with anyone at the airport, got a sealed taxi home from it and didn't go to the shops or see any of his family between landing and symptoms appearing then we have nothing to worry about. This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. |
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On 15/03/2020 21:02, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 15/03/2020 21:02, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote: wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. I agree. I think it's a gross over-reaction but at least the UK response has been more balanced than many other countries. Personally, I'd encourage all events and business to continue as usual, simply asking older people to stay away. Most younger, healthy people aren't at much risk, and we're all going to be exposed sooner or later, anyway. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 23:52:44 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: MissRiaElaine wrote: On 15/03/2020 21:02, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote: wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. I agree. I think it's a gross over-reaction but at least the UK response has been more balanced than many other countries. Personally, I'd encourage all events and business to continue as usual, simply asking older people to stay away. Most younger, healthy people aren't at much risk, and we're all going to be exposed sooner or later, anyway. For once I agree with you entirely. People should be given the facts and if they want to self isolate they should be allowed to do so, but other than that life should carry on as normal. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 16:02:04 -0500
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote: wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. We all tend to be creatures of habit. Its unlikely he'd have visited anywhere different in the week after symptoms appearing than before. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On 15/03/2020 23:41, MissRiaElaine wrote:
On 15/03/2020 21:02, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote: wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. What the hell has the media got to do with it? -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On 16/03/2020 14:07, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 15/03/2020 23:41, MissRiaElaine wrote: I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. What the hell has the media got to do with it? The media are the ones blowing everything out of all proportion. Exaggerating risks, scaremongering, even the BBC's "news" site isn't immune to it. And as for the tabloid press, I won't even begin to comment on what I think of them. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:32:20 +0000, MissRiaElaine
wrote: On 16/03/2020 14:07, Graeme Wall wrote: On 15/03/2020 23:41, MissRiaElaine wrote: I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. What the hell has the media got to do with it? The media are the ones blowing everything out of all proportion. Exaggerating risks, scaremongering, even the BBC's "news" site isn't immune to it. And as for the tabloid press, I won't even begin to comment on what I think of them. I've not looked at the tabloid press, but plenty of other countries seem to be panicking about it, much more than we are. |
TfL's enhanced cleaning regime
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 14:07:10 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote: On 15/03/2020 23:41, MissRiaElaine wrote: On 15/03/2020 21:02, Arthur Conan Doyle wrote: wrote: This whole self isolation is bloody nonsense. But the time the symptoms appear the person has been spreading the virus for almost a week already. And would continue to do so for another week. A 50% reduction in exposure time is not to be sneezed at. Pun intended. I just worry for those whose employment is being affected; bar/restaurant staff, pubs, cinemas, shops etc. It's hard enough running a small business these days without this to make things even more difficult. I was speaking to a friend (on the phone..!) the other day who works as a video engineer in the live entertainment industry. He's self-employed and has had to take a job making window boxes for the next six months as all his normal work has dried up completely. Still, at least he still has some money coming in, even if it's not as much as he's used to. An awful lot of people are going to be hung out to dry over this, and it's the media to blame for most of it in my opinion. What the hell has the media got to do with it? Scaremongering and constant repetition to the detriment of every other topic just like they did over Brexit. Remember how the economy was going to collapse and the pound become valueless soon after a yes vote? There are plenty of people still homeless after the floods which is a bit more important than getting something no worse than a bad cold unless you're elderly or ill but they've completely gone off the media radar. |
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