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Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted:
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On 27/03/2020 08:46, Recliner wrote:
Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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In message , at 10:16:26 on Fri, 27 Mar
2020, Graeme Wall remarked: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction Being in Central London, a high risk area, doesn't help. has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. Have they issued advice on building sites in general yet? Although of course a lot of HS2 work - even engineering - takes place in offices, but maybe they've taken their CAD systems home by now.. -- Roland Perry |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 08:46:52 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended Will anyone notice the difference in progress? |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:16:26 +0000, Graeme Wall
wrote: On 27/03/2020 08:46, Recliner wrote: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. HiViz jackets were visible on the HS2 site in Chalfont St Peter this morning. Guy Gorton |
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On 27/03/2020 12:53, Guy Gorton wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:16:26 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote: On 27/03/2020 08:46, Recliner wrote: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. HiViz jackets were visible on the HS2 site in Chalfont St Peter this morning. It was a throwaway line in an article about the construction industry generally. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52034586 A growing number of construction companies have said they will stop all non-essential work to help fight the coronavirus, but others continue to operate amid confusion over the government's advice. Housebuilder Persimmon has joined others in pledging to down tools, while most work has stopped on HS2 rail. … -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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Guy Gorton wrote:
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:16:26 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote: On 27/03/2020 08:46, Recliner wrote: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. HiViz jackets were visible on the HS2 site in Chalfont St Peter this morning. Presumably there'll always be some work required to make a site suitable to be left for an unknown period of time. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Guy Gorton remarked: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. HiViz jackets were visible on the HS2 site in Chalfont St Peter this morning. Was anyone wearing them? -- Roland Perry |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 13:27:02 +0000
Graeme Wall wrote: On 27/03/2020 12:53, Guy Gorton wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:16:26 +0000, Graeme Wall wrote: On 27/03/2020 08:46, Recliner wrote: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. HiViz jackets were visible on the HS2 site in Chalfont St Peter this morning. It was a throwaway line in an article about the construction industry generally. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52034586 A growing number of construction companies have said they will stop all non-essential work to help fight the coronavirus, but others continue to operate amid confusion over the government's advice. Housebuilder Persimmon has joined others in pledging to down tools, while most work has stopped on HS2 rail. … If the government allows them to work then they should carry on and work as their tax money is going to be needed badly. |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:30:42 +0000, Roland Perry
wrote: In message , at 10:16:26 on Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Graeme Wall remarked: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction Being in Central London, a high risk area, doesn't help. has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. Have they issued advice on building sites in general yet? Although of course a lot of HS2 work - even engineering - takes place in offices, but maybe they've taken their CAD systems home by now.. Apparently Boris has said it is OK to keep going to work on building sites - https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/...lained-2516863 and was almost immediately contradicted. Various companies have taken various views but I can't see social distancing being achieveable on anything other than a small site staffed by a man and his dog[TM] or maybe by the odd few who can operate as a family-sized group with only minimal necessary contact with others. |
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On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:44:24 +0000
Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:30:42 +0000, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:16:26 on Fri, 27 Mar 2020, Graeme Wall remarked: Unsurprisingly, Crossrail construction Being in Central London, a high risk area, doesn't help. has been halted: https://www.railmagazine.com/news/network/work-on-crossrail-sites-suspended And, apparently, HS2. Have they issued advice on building sites in general yet? Although of course a lot of HS2 work - even engineering - takes place in offices, but maybe they've taken their CAD systems home by now.. Apparently Boris has said it is OK to keep going to work on building sites - https://inews.co.uk/inews-lifestyle/...n-can-builders -work-construction-workers-coronavirus-lockdown-uk-explained-2516863 and was almost immediately contradicted. Various companies have taken various views but I can't see social distancing being achieveable on anything other than a small site staffed by a man and his dog[TM] or maybe by the odd few who can operate as a family-sized group with only minimal necessary contact with others. Social isolation simply can't be done with certain jobs, simple as that. If the construction work is important (eg a house at the bottom of my road currently has no roof - it can't stay like that for 3 months or it'll be a wreck) then it needs to be done regardless. If they workers are willing to take the risk then they should be allowed to do so. |
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On 29/03/2020 09:01, Someone Somewhere wrote:
Some of the reactions from the public are bizarre in the extreme though - the attempt at shaming those who go to work and the police with drones etc - and some sections of the population fundamentally need to be ashamed of themselves for self-serving behaviour. This situation is certainly bringing out the worst of a lot of people, but it also brings out the best in some. We were speaking on the phone to a friend a few days ago, who usually pops around for a coffee every two or three weeks, obviously now she can't do so. We were bemoaning the lack of things like toilet rolls etc. and that they sell out within an hour of the shop opening and we're not good at mornings..! Yesterday, we had a phone call out of the blue - "I've been out this morning and got you some loo rolls, I'll bring them round and leave them on your doorstep." Half an hour later the doorbell went and when we looked out there they were and she wouldn't take any money for them. Today we woke up to the door again and there was another bag of supplies outside, including a big box of assorted chocolate biscuits..! Now THAT is selflessness and the mark of true friendship. We are honestly very humbled to know someone who will do that for us. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 09:01:18 +0100
Someone Somewhere wrote: On 28/03/2020 10:40, wrote: Social isolation simply can't be done with certain jobs, simple as that. If the construction work is important (eg a house at the bottom of my road currently has no roof - it can't stay like that for 3 months or it'll be a wreck) then it needs to be done regardless. If they workers are willing to take the risk then they should be allowed to do so. Indeed - what very few of the shouty people on the internet or in the media seem to realise is that this is a little more nuanced than people realise. The aim of the current restrictions is not to stop the virus - it's too virulent and the net effect on the population is not large enough for the absolute draconian measures that you'd need (get the army out on the streets, properly separated, and insist everyone stay home for 2 weeks regardless of stocks of food or other needs and if they leave they can be shot on sight) that you'd need if this thing had the death rate of e.g. ebola or similar. Even then key people would still need to go to work - if there was no water or electricity there'd be no point saving everyone from a disease if they died of thirst or cold anyway. Tbh if a disease that bad became highly infectious then frankly civilisation would be ****ed no matter what. The aim is therefore for a slow burn through the population and to reduce the transmission rate to a level that the NHS can cope with (hopefully) so that anyone who can reasonably be saved with medical intervention will be. Sweden seem to have a different take on hit however - they're old and at risk are being told to remain at home but life goes on more or less as normal for everyone else. Apparently the idea being to get the herd immunity in the not at risk part of the population and get the virus to burn itself out quickly at which point the self isolating groups can leave home. Lets hope that approach works because if it does this whole lockdown business can be binned. We should find in in a few weeks. Some of the reactions from the public are bizarre in the extreme though - the attempt at shaming those who go to work and the police with drones etc - and some sections of the population fundamentally need to be ashamed of themselves for self-serving behaviour. Unfortunately there will always be screw you I'm alright jack members of the public and there will also always be wanna gestapo within the police. |
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 09:01:18 +0100 Someone Somewhere wrote: On 28/03/2020 10:40, wrote: Social isolation simply can't be done with certain jobs, simple as that. If the construction work is important (eg a house at the bottom of my road currently has no roof - it can't stay like that for 3 months or it'll be a wreck) then it needs to be done regardless. If they workers are willing to take the risk then they should be allowed to do so. Indeed - what very few of the shouty people on the internet or in the media seem to realise is that this is a little more nuanced than people realise. The aim of the current restrictions is not to stop the virus - it's too virulent and the net effect on the population is not large enough for the absolute draconian measures that you'd need (get the army out on the streets, properly separated, and insist everyone stay home for 2 weeks regardless of stocks of food or other needs and if they leave they can be shot on sight) that you'd need if this thing had the death rate of e.g. ebola or similar. Even then key people would still need to go to work - if there was no water or electricity there'd be no point saving everyone from a disease if they died of thirst or cold anyway. Tbh if a disease that bad became highly infectious then frankly civilisation would be ****ed no matter what. The aim is therefore for a slow burn through the population and to reduce the transmission rate to a level that the NHS can cope with (hopefully) so that anyone who can reasonably be saved with medical intervention will be. Sweden seem to have a different take on hit however - they're old and at risk are being told to remain at home but life goes on more or less as normal for everyone else. Apparently the idea being to get the herd immunity in the not at risk part of the population and get the virus to burn itself out quickly at which point the self isolating groups can leave home. Lets hope that approach works because if it does this whole lockdown business can be binned. We should find in in a few weeks. That's roughly what the UK was doing until about 10 days ago, when the government felt obliged to bring in a much tougher policy. Some of the reactions from the public are bizarre in the extreme though - the attempt at shaming those who go to work and the police with drones etc - and some sections of the population fundamentally need to be ashamed of themselves for self-serving behaviour. Unfortunately there will always be screw you I'm alright jack members of the public and there will also always be wanna gestapo within the police. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 09:26:48 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote: wrote: On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 09:01:18 +0100 Someone Somewhere wrote: On 28/03/2020 10:40, wrote: Social isolation simply can't be done with certain jobs, simple as that. If the construction work is important (eg a house at the bottom of my road currently has no roof - it can't stay like that for 3 months or it'll be a wreck) then it needs to be done regardless. If they workers are willing to take the risk then they should be allowed to do so. Indeed - what very few of the shouty people on the internet or in the media seem to realise is that this is a little more nuanced than people realise. The aim of the current restrictions is not to stop the virus - it's too virulent and the net effect on the population is not large enough for the absolute draconian measures that you'd need (get the army out on the streets, properly separated, and insist everyone stay home for 2 weeks regardless of stocks of food or other needs and if they leave they can be shot on sight) that you'd need if this thing had the death rate of e.g. ebola or similar. Even then key people would still need to go to work - if there was no water or electricity there'd be no point saving everyone from a disease if they died of thirst or cold anyway. Tbh if a disease that bad became highly infectious then frankly civilisation would be ****ed no matter what. The aim is therefore for a slow burn through the population and to reduce the transmission rate to a level that the NHS can cope with (hopefully) so that anyone who can reasonably be saved with medical intervention will be. Sweden seem to have a different take on hit however - they're old and at risk are being told to remain at home but life goes on more or less as normal for everyone else. Apparently the idea being to get the herd immunity in the not at risk part of the population and get the virus to burn itself out quickly at which point the self isolating groups can leave home. Lets hope that approach works because if it does this whole lockdown business can be binned. We should find in in a few weeks. That's roughly what the UK was doing until about 10 days ago, when the government felt obliged to bring in a much tougher policy. No doubt down in part to media hysteria. There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. Also the liberal lefts burning desire to put the "plebs" in their place also shines through - ie lets lock them up for months for their own good etc. |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 10:09:02 +0100
Basil Jet wrote: On 30/03/2020 09:05, wrote: Sweden seem to have a different take on hit however - they're old and at risk are being told to remain at home but life goes on more or less as normal for everyone else. Apparently the idea being to get the herd immunity in the not at risk part of the population and get the virus to burn itself out quickly at which point the self isolating groups can leave home. Lets hope that approach works because if it does this whole lockdown business can be binned. We should find in in a few weeks. I can't believe that Sweden would get anything right. They probably heard that it's mostly men and mostly old people who die, so they've decided to welcome the disease in. Who cares what they're reasoning is - they're doing an experiment that could benefit the whole world if it works. If it doesn't then I guess Ikea might be short of flatpack furniture and meatballs for a while. |
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Basil Jet wrote:
On 30/03/2020 09:05, wrote: Sweden seem to have a different take on hit however - they're old and at risk are being told to remain at home but life goes on more or less as normal for everyone else. Apparently the idea being to get the herd immunity in the not at risk part of the population and get the virus to burn itself out quickly at which point the self isolating groups can leave home. Lets hope that approach works because if it does this whole lockdown business can be binned. We should find in in a few weeks. I can't believe that Sweden would get anything right. They probably heard that it's mostly men and mostly old people who die, so they've decided to welcome the disease in. Seems strangely appropriate. https://youtu.be/-crgQGdpZR0 GH |
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Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. The next deadline is supposed to be June, when either the EU decides if a deal is possible to conclude before the end of December, or UK/EU agree to an extension. I think the virus has pretty much halted negotiations. No face-to-face negotiations are possible, and many of the UK team have been redeployed to Covid-19 related activities; I'm not sure if the EU team is still functioning. Some are in self-isolation on both sides, from Cummings downwards on our side and including M Barnier on the EU side. The EU insists that the gap is too wide to be bridged other than with physical meetings. So it's pretty certain that not much will have been achieved by June. |
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In message , at 11:13:39 on Mon, 30 Mar
2020, Recliner remarked: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. The next deadline is supposed to be June, when either the EU decides if a deal is possible to conclude before the end of December, or UK/EU agree to an extension. I think the virus has pretty much halted negotiations. No face-to-face negotiations are possible, and many of the UK team have been redeployed to Covid-19 related activities; I'm not sure if the EU team is still functioning. Some are in self-isolation on both sides, from Cummings downwards on our side and including M Barnier on the EU side. The EU insists that the gap is too wide to be bridged other than with physical meetings. So it's pretty certain that not much will have been achieved by June. Sounds very plausible. So who will blink first - Boris agreeing to an extension, or are we inevitably heading for a Hard (no-deal) Brexit? -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100
Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. It would seem their crystal balls were on the blink that day. Ditto there were predictions that the day we left the EU regardless of whether we were still marching in tune temporarily , the sky would fall on our heads etc. But then they're all following in the grand tradition of John Major who convinced everyone it was in the UKs interest to join the ERM. That turned out well .. for George Soros. |
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On 30/03/2020 14:05, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 11:13:39 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Recliner remarked: Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. The next deadline is supposed to be June, when either the EU decides if a deal is possible to conclude before the end of December, or UK/EU agree to an extension. I think the virus has pretty much halted negotiations. No face-to-face negotiations are possible, and many of the UK team have been redeployed to Covid-19 related activities; I'm not sure if the EU team is still functioning. Some are in self-isolation on both sides, from Cummings downwards on our side and including M Barnier on the EU side. The EU insists that the gap is too wide to be bridged other than with physical meetings. So it's pretty certain that not much will have been achieved by June. Sounds very plausible. So who will blink first - Boris agreeing to an extension, or are we inevitably heading for a Hard (no-deal) Brexit? This scenario is exactly what the ERG were hoping for, no deal by default. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On 30/03/2020 15:10, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. It would seem their crystal balls were on the blink that day. Ditto there were predictions that the day we left the EU regardless of whether we were still marching in tune temporarily , the sky would fall on our heads etc. We haven't actually left yet… -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On 29/03/2020 09:01, Someone Somewhere wrote:
Indeed - what very few of the shouty people on the internet or in the media seem to realise is that [insert issue here?] is a little more nuanced than people realise. The aim of the current restrictions is not to stop the virus - it's too virulent and the net effect on the population is not large enough for the absolute draconian measures that you'd need (get the army out on the streets,Â* properly separated, and insist everyone stay home for 2 weeks regardless of stocks of food or other needs and if they leave they can be shot on sight) that you'd need if this thing had the death rate of e.g. ebola or similar. I suspect that many of the shouty people on the internet think the same whether there is a virus or not. Ban cycling because you might get knocked off and then nurses will die adds variety to the usual complaints that they don't pay a tax abolished in the 1930s. The kind of people who can afford houses near the park complaining that people from flats might use the park has been an issue since roughly forever. Anyway, I'm off to organise a widely-spacecd mob to check people's shopping for chocolate. -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK |
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In message , at 14:10:45 on Mon, 30 Mar
2020, remarked: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. The main thing they got wrong was assuming that the uncertainty caused by speculators betting on what kind of trade deal we'd have, would kick in immediately. And the assumption that by trying to do that trade deal in as little as two years would result in UK getting a rushed/botched arrangement. (Rather than the mixed message from Boris/Gove that they wanted a cake-and-eat-it ultra soft deal [aka BRINO] and the ERG pushing for a hard exit.) What actually happened was a masterclass in kicking the can down the road by Theresa May, with the various attempts to "take no-deal off the table" meaning there was a suspension of reality, and largely business as usual. Now that we know the Boris/Gove deal is a Chimera (well, some always knew, but a surprisingly large number of people didn't), the prospect of economic harm still hangs on the thread of when we actually leave, or slightly more imminent, when we know on what terms we will leave. And rather than having two years to rush a trade deal, we now have only a few months. Go figure. -- Roland Perry |
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In message , at 16:29:13 on Mon, 30 Mar
2020, Graeme Wall remarked: So who will blink first - Boris agreeing to an extension, or are we inevitably heading for a Hard (no-deal) Brexit? This scenario is exactly what the ERG were hoping for, no deal by default. Tantamount to treason. -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:30:23 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote: On 30/03/2020 15:10, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. It would seem their crystal balls were on the blink that day. Ditto there were predictions that the day we left the EU regardless of whether we were still marching in tune temporarily , the sky would fall on our heads etc. We haven't actually left yet… Sorry? We have very much left you plank, we're simply following EU rules and regs at the moment. |
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On 31/03/2020 10:09, wrote:
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:30:23 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 30/03/2020 15:10, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. It would seem their crystal balls were on the blink that day. Ditto there were predictions that the day we left the EU regardless of whether we were still marching in tune temporarily , the sky would fall on our heads etc. We haven't actually left yet… Sorry? We have very much left you plank, we're simply following EU rules and regs at the moment. Yes, that means we are still in the system, we've just surrendered control, that's all. -- Graeme Wall This account not read. |
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On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 12:05:18 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote: On 31/03/2020 10:09, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:30:23 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: On 30/03/2020 15:10, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 11:57:15 +0100 Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 09:43:51 on Mon, 30 Mar 2020, remarked: There's nothing the media - particularly the BBC - like to do more than turn a situation into a crisis then disingenuously claim that they're only "reporting the facts". They did exactly the same thing with Brexit with any academic with an axe to grind who was willing to claim that it would cause food shortages etc being given air time. We haven't go to the point in the Brexit process where such an outcome would start to manifest itself. "No Deal", or something approaching it. Thats odd because I distincly remember George Osborne and Mark Carney claiming the pould would collapse due to massive sell offs in the city and the UK would be destitute within months going cap in hand to the IMF if we dared vote to leave back in 2016. It would seem their crystal balls were on the blink that day. Ditto there were predictions that the day we left the EU regardless of whether we were still marching in tune temporarily , the sky would fall on our heads etc. We haven't actually left yet… Sorry? We have very much left you plank, we're simply following EU rules and regs at the moment. Yes, that means we are still in the system, we've just surrendered control, that's all. Given how quickly the gates came down on the borders within the EU when this virus kicked off, you have to wonder just how strong the EU really is anyway. There was definately a whiff of every man/country for himself that week. So much for stronger together. You have to laugh :) |
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Graeme Wall wrote:
On 31/03/2020 10:09, wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 16:30:23 +0100 Graeme Wall wrote: We haven't actually left yet… Sorry? We have very much left you plank, we're simply following EU rules and regs at the moment. Yes, that means we are still in the system, we've just surrendered control, that's all. Yes, we’re in the LINO phase. Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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