Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.
--
Roland Perry

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

On Sat, 23 May 2020 15:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

In message , at 15:40:12 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 15:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).
--
Roland Perry

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:40:12 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 15:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).

As I've already pointed out in this thread, teachers have a much lower risk
of contracting Covid than the general public. That's why I said that the
greatest risk to teachers is the commute.

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

In message , at 20:50:21 on Sat, 23 May
2020, Recliner remarked:

Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).

As I've already pointed out in this thread, teachers have a much lower risk
of contracting Covid than the general public.

We need a new meme: Ask two different statisticians, get three answers;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ivided-over-co
ronavirus-risk-to-children-if-schools-reopen

That's why I said that the greatest risk to teachers is the commute.

From RTAs?
--
Roland Perry

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:40:12 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 15:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from
Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender.
The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the
school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on
public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't
want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this
specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads,
what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).

As I've already pointed out in this thread, teachers have a much lower
risk
of contracting Covid than the general public.

This would be teachers not doing their normal job? (Yes I know that schools
are still partially open)

How come they have less chance than the rest of the general public, of
catching the disease in their not-working part of the day

tim

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 20:50:21 on Sat, 23 May
2020, Recliner remarked:

Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender. The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads, what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).

As I've already pointed out in this thread, teachers have a much lower risk
of contracting Covid than the general public.

We need a new meme: Ask two different statisticians, get three answers;

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ivided-over-co
ronavirus-risk-to-children-if-schools-reopen

That's why I said that the greatest risk to teachers is the commute.

From RTAs?

Yes

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

tim... wrote:


"Recliner" wrote in message
...
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 15:40:12 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
On Sat, 23 May 2020 15:09:16 +0100, Roland Perry
wrote:

In message , at 13:58:22 on
Sat, 23 May 2020, Recliner remarked:
Apparently teachers have had a significantly lower death rate from
Covid
than the wider population, after correcting for age and gender.
The
greatest risk of schools reopening is the journey to and from the
school.

Which in my experience is, for teachers, overwhelmingly not on
public
transport. Apart from anything else it's not reliable enough to
guarantee to get you for 8.30am, not a minute later.

Also, many bus routes avoid schools before 9am, because they don't
want
the hassle of kids on stage buses (yes, I've discussed this
specific
issue with a bus company when writing a school's transport policy).

Yes, I was thinking of the dangers of the drive to work.

Apart from the fact lots of people are driving with their eyes shut
because they apparently expect exclusive use of deserted roads,
what's
the risk you allude to?

Just the normal risks of the road, nothing special. In other words,
their risks of catching covid-19 are no worse than the risks of
everyday life.

On the commute, I agree. The risks arise when they get to work.

What risks? Playground or gym accidents? Explosions in the science
lab?

Contact with infected [but possibly asymptotic] pupils (or colleagues,
or non-teaching staff).

As I've already pointed out in this thread, teachers have a much lower
risk
of contracting Covid than the general public.

This would be teachers not doing their normal job? (Yes I know that schools
are still partially open)

How come they have less chance than the rest of the general public, of
catching the disease in their not-working part of the day


They were doing their normal jobs when the virus was spreading most
rapidly.

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

On Sat, 23 May 2020 11:33:54 +0100
Arthur Figgis wrote:
On 23/05/2020 09:54, wrote:


Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the current
one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting down
any union that proposes it.


Wouldn't that risk turning into more of a politician with one bollock
approach?

I don't follow.

Coronavirus: TfL reveals 20 busiest Tube and train
 

On Sat, 23 May 2020 12:38:37 +0100
Graeme Wall wrote:
On 23/05/2020 09:54, wrote:
Any government with a working pair of ******** (which rules out the current
one)
could enact emergency legislation at a time like this to put the unions
back in their box by making striking illegal for X months and shutting down
any union that proposes it.


The one thing that would guarantee Mr Cash's wet dream of a general strike.

Unfortunately for Mr Cash its not the 1970s any more. Only a minority of the
working population belong to a union and most of those unions are not militant
but more glorified HR mechanisms. So he could call a general strike but apart
from the usual suspects (rail workers, teachers, various council employees)
life would go on as normal. And the strike itself wouldn't last long since
the strikers would not be paid from union funds and would have no choice but
to go back to work.