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New boarding on London's buses
In article , Recliner
writes Consider the London borough of Brent, which has had the highest percentage of excess deaths this year. Those excess deaths amount to 0.15% of the population. So, even in the highest risk area, where an NHS hospital had to declare an emergency, 99.85% did not die from the plague. On the other hand, the excess deaths this year so far exceed the total deaths from the Blitz and are about 70% of the total civilian deaths in WW2. (I accept the population is about 35% higher now.) UK deaths from the "Spanish Flu" pandemic of 1919 were about 0.6% of the population. We're currently at about 1/10 of that. -- Clive D.W. Feather |
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In article , Charles Ellson
writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. -- Clive D.W. Feather |
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On 05/06/2020 20:19, Clive D.W. Feather wrote:
In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I dare say they do. But I for one don't need the hassle. I want to go into a shop, try something on, buy it if it fits, try another if it doesn't. All done in a matter of minutes (or possibly longer if I get talking..!) And yes we have tried supermarkets, but the range is limited, especially when it comes to shoes. -- Ria in Aberdeen [Send address is invalid, use sipsoup at gmail dot com to reply direct] |
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On 05/06/2020 20:22, Clive D.W. Feather wrote:
In article , writes All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business are subject to an unlimited fine. I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a small amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you homeless by law. I'm not talking about debt collectors, I'm talking about a court. I don't know what powers they have to take your money, but I suspect it's somewhat higher than someone collecting on behalf of your landlord. You seem never to watch "Can't pay, they'll take it away" which follows High Court sheriffs enforcing court orders. Note these are often County Court orders which have been escalated as sheriffs have greater powers than bailiffs. They cannot take your house if you are the owner / mortgage holder but they can take almost everything else worth money. There are limits, no beds, cookers etc to allow you to live, but computers, TVs, cars are all fair game. -- Colin |
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"ColinR" wrote in message ... On 05/06/2020 20:22, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: In article , writes All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business are subject to an unlimited fine. I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a small amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you homeless by law. I'm not talking about debt collectors, I'm talking about a court. I don't know what powers they have to take your money, but I suspect it's somewhat higher than someone collecting on behalf of your landlord. You seem never to watch "Can't pay, they'll take it away" which follows High Court sheriffs enforcing court orders. Note these are often County Court orders which have been escalated as sheriffs have greater powers than bailiffs. They cannot take your house if you are the owner / mortgage holder but they can take almost everything else worth money. There are limits, no beds, cookers etc to allow you to live, but computers, TVs, cars are all fair game. Just because bailiffs (under any name) cannot take your house just by knocking on your door with a court warrant doesn't mean that there isn't a process for a creditor to apply for a court order to take it, to satisfy the debt HTH tim -- Colin |
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In article , ColinR
..co.uk writes I'm not talking about debt collectors, I'm talking about a court. I don't know what powers they have to take your money, but I suspect it's somewhat higher than someone collecting on behalf of your landlord. You seem never to watch "Can't pay, they'll take it away" which follows High Court sheriffs enforcing court orders. Note these are often County Court orders which have been escalated as sheriffs have greater powers than bailiffs. They cannot take your house if you are the owner / mortgage holder but they can take almost everything else worth money. There are limits, no beds, cookers etc to allow you to live, but computers, TVs, cars are all fair game. Oh, I've seen it. But they're enforcing a civil debt. I'm talking about enforcing a criminal penalty. Different situation and, for all I know, different laws apply. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/de...-debt/dealing- with-urgent-debts/paying-a-court-fine/ "In extreme cases you could be put in prison, but normally only if the court thinks you’re deliberately not paying." That doesn't answer whether they can take your house, but I can't be bothered to research further. -- Clive D.W. Feather |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather"
wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. |
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Charles Ellson wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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"Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH tim |
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On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. |
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:22:50 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business are subject to an unlimited fine. I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a small amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you homeless by law. I'm not talking about debt collectors, I'm talking about a court. How do you think the court enforces it? The judges don't go down there themselves. |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. |
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 22:06:01 +0100
MissRiaElaine wrote: On 05/06/2020 20:19, Clive D.W. Feather wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I dare say they do. But I for one don't need the hassle. I want to go into a shop, try something on, buy it if it fits, try another if it doesn't. All done in a matter of minutes (or possibly longer if I get talking..!) And yes we have tried supermarkets, but the range is limited, especially when it comes to shoes. Its not just shoes and clothes. The selection of books and magazines at supermarkets is pretty poor too - pretty much potboiler fiction and sleb autobiographies for books and the usual slew of anorexics-wearing-clothes magazines with a few token mags for us chaps. |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. It's been explained to you not everyone has an M&S on the corner HTH tim |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:22:50 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes All your money. Not the company's - yours. All officers of the business are subject to an unlimited fine. I'd still risk it. Unlimited fines are meaningless if you only have a small amount of savings and debt collectors can't take your house and make you homeless by law. I'm not talking about debt collectors, I'm talking about a court. How do you think the court enforces it? The judges don't go down there themselves. It's clear that where a house is being repossessed that court bailiffs enforce it the point is that just because the initial warrant does not allow that as a remedy, it is an option open to the creditor if initial attempts to get recompense fail |
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In message , at 09:05:21 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020,
tim... remarked: not everyone has an M&S on the corner I almost do; it's about a mile away at a BP petrol station, but I'll bet a crate of champagne they won't accept returns of M&S clothing. -- Roland Perry |
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 08:27:52 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: "Charles Ellson" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue All parties have "demands" for many things. I don't see voter fatigue in elections which have so far been held many times more often than a single referendum six years ago. |
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tim... wrote:
"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue Do you have some kind of legal or even scholarly reference for that assertion? Sam -- The entity formerly known as Spit the dummy to reply |
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In message , at 10:46:39 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020,
remarked: Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. -- Roland Perry |
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On 08/06/2020 11:43, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 10:46:39 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020, remarked: Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. Â*I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply goingÂ* back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. Interesting. The distances are as the gulls fly and it shows Morrisons as my closest at 0.69 miles which necessitates swimming across the River Ely to achieve. The walking distance will be about 1.05 miles so in comparison with the Post Office will be about 40 minutes. Bring back C&A whose clothes always fitted me. |
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"Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue Do you have some kind of legal or even scholarly reference for that assertion? try this as just one example https://capx.co/a-fate-worse-than-qu...ds-neverendum/ |
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In message , at 12:58:52 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020,
remarked: In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. Interesting. The distances are as the gulls fly and it shows Morrisons as my closest at 0.69 miles which necessitates swimming across the River Ely to achieve. The walking distance will be about 1.05 miles so in comparison with the Post Office will be about 40 minutes. Why are you prevented from driving the 1.05 miles? -- Roland Perry |
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On 08/06/2020 13:20, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 12:58:52 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020, remarked: In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minuteÂ* round trip to the Post Office. Â*You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? Â*https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. Interesting. The distances are as the gulls fly and it shows Morrisons as my closest at 0.69 miles which necessitates swimming across the River Ely to achieve.Â* The walking distance will be about 1.05 miles so in comparison with the Post Office will be about 40 minutes. Why are you prevented from driving the 1.05 miles? It's routed via footbridge. I lied as according to Google maps it's 1.2 miles each way to walk and it's also 2.0 miles to drive outbound as a right turn is prohibited and 1.4 miles inbound. My policy is to travel on foot for such local trips unless I need too much shopping. It's healthy. |
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wrote:
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. I pass postboxes, post offices and convenience stores on my way to/from work. Some couriers will even collect packages from your home! Visiting clothes/shoe shops requires a trip out of my way. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:05:21 +0100
"tim..." wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. It's been explained to you not everyone has an M&S on the corner HTH Not everyone has a post office or a chavmart on the corner either. HTH. |
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:46:39 +0100
wrote: On 08/06/2020 08:45, wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. Where do you live, the isle of skye? |
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wrote:
On 08/06/2020 11:43, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:46:39 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020, remarked: Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. Â*I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply goingÂ* back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. Interesting. The distances are as the gulls fly and it shows Morrisons as my closest at 0.69 miles which necessitates swimming across the River Ely to achieve. The walking distance will be about 1.05 miles so in comparison with the Post Office will be about 40 minutes. Bring back C&A whose clothes always fitted me. Still available in other countries! I bought t-shirts and shorts in C&A in Switzerland on a trip two years ago. Anna Noyd-Dryver |
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On 08/06/2020 15:53, Anna Noyd-Dryver wrote:
wrote: On 08/06/2020 11:43, Roland Perry wrote: In message , at 10:46:39 on Mon, 8 Jun 2020, remarked: Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. Â*I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply goingÂ* back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. You don't have a suitable inconvenience store closer? https://www.parcel2go.com/ is a good source for finding one. Interesting. The distances are as the gulls fly and it shows Morrisons as my closest at 0.69 miles which necessitates swimming across the River Ely to achieve. The walking distance will be about 1.05 miles so in comparison with the Post Office will be about 40 minutes. Bring back C&A whose clothes always fitted me. Still available in other countries! I bought t-shirts and shorts in C&A in Switzerland on a trip two years ago. I got stuff in Amsterdam and Hamburg last October. |
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On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:05:51 +0100, "tim..."
wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue Do you have some kind of legal or even scholarly reference for that assertion? try this as just one example https://capx.co/a-fate-worse-than-qu...ds-neverendum/ Azeem Ibrahim, Executive Chairman of the Scotland Institute, a "think tank" founded by an unholy LAB-LIB-CON alliance of Alistair Darling, Jo Swinson and Jackson Carlaw. |
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In article , Roland Perry
writes The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case (and I suspect Clive's) the shop is 10 miles away and has no parking. So you have to queue to get into the council car park then go round and up and round and up and round and up to find a space. Walk five minutes to the store which has a queue at Customer Services, then walk back and *pay*, then go round and down and round and down and round and down and queue to exit. Then drive 10 miles home. Not quite 10 miles: 9.3 to Lion Yard or 7.4 to Park Street (which is a longer walk). In each case, about 3 quid for parking. Or 25 minutes each way on a bus for I forget what fare. But you've got the basics right. Rather than drop a package off at a convenience store within short walking distance of home (or has free parking on the street outside). The walk to the post office (which is what I used) is about 15 minutes each way, just right for my daughter's and my daily exercise. But, yes, they do have free parking either on the street or at the adjacent Tesco. -- Clive D.W. Feather |
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In message , at 21:47:17 on Mon, 8 Jun
2020, Clive D.W. Feather remarked: In article , Roland Perry writes The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case (and I suspect Clive's) the shop is 10 miles away and has no parking. So you have to queue to get into the council car park then go round and up and round and up and round and up to find a space. Walk five minutes to the store which has a queue at Customer Services, then walk back and *pay*, then go round and down and round and down and round and down and queue to exit. Then drive 10 miles home. Not quite 10 miles: 9.3 to Lion Yard or 7.4 to Park Street (which is a longer walk). In each case, about 3 quid for parking. Or 25 minutes each way on a bus for I forget what fare. £4.50 But you've got the basics right. I'm more than 10 miles, actually, but it's a broad-brush logarithmic scale: more than 3 miles but less than 30 miles. Rather than drop a package off at a convenience store within short walking distance of home (or has free parking on the street outside). The walk to the post office (which is what I used) is about 15 minutes each way, just right for my daughter's and my daily exercise. But, yes, they do have free parking either on the street or at the adjacent Tesco. -- Roland Perry |
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"Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 13:05:51 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... tim... wrote: "Charles Ellson" wrote in message ... On Sun, 7 Jun 2020 09:04:10 +0100, "tim..." wrote: "Sam Wilson" wrote in message ... Charles Ellson wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:28:58 +0100, "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , Charles Ellson writes But it's ok for you, the government and every other Tom, Dick or Harry to force their decisions on us. In the case of the government, that's what we elected them to do. FSVO "We". We, as a country, elected them. Being on the losing side sometimes is part of the system. At least two other countries in the Union didn't elect them. They may not have voted for them, but they did take part in the process of electing them. (Alas!) you had the democratic opportunity to change that and democracy won HTH Democracy is a repeating process. but not in a way where there are demands for a neverendum, so that they eventually win from voter fatigue Do you have some kind of legal or even scholarly reference for that assertion? try this as just one example https://capx.co/a-fate-worse-than-qu...ds-neverendum/ Azeem Ibrahim, Executive Chairman of the Scotland Institute, a "think tank" founded by an unholy LAB-LIB-CON alliance of Alistair Darling, Jo Swinson and Jackson Carlaw. You simply asked me for proof that the term was in (FSVO) general usage and not something I had invented (at least that's how I interpreted your PP) I've given you that If you don't agree with the analysis, credibly refute it. Shooting the messenger is never a valid debating position. HTH tim |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:05:21 +0100 "tim..." wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. It's been explained to you not everyone has an M&S on the corner HTH Not everyone has a post office or a chavmart on the corner either. I did wonder if you were going to take "on the corner" literally and should use a different term, but decided that even you weren't that stupid Seems I was wrong HTH |
New boarding on London's buses
wrote in message ... On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 10:46:39 +0100 wrote: On 08/06/2020 08:45, wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 20:19:01 +0100 "Clive D.W. Feather" wrote: In article , writes Well, the typical "try out" approach is to order the same shoe in sizes 9, 9 1/2 and 10, keep one pair and return the other two. On what planet? The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case it's a 60 minute round trip back to the shop or a 30 minute round trip to the Post Office. Where do you live, the isle of skye? at 3 miles per hour walking pace that us decrepit oldies manage that 0.75 miles each way |
New boarding on London's buses
"Clive D.W. Feather" wrote in message ... In article , Roland Perry writes The one we, if not you, live on. I just posted some clothes back to M&S today ordered on just that basis (not shoes). They even pay the postage. I find it incredible that anyone could find that less hassle than simply going back to the shop and getting an immediate refund/exchange. In my case (and I suspect Clive's) the shop is 10 miles away and has no parking. So you have to queue to get into the council car park then go round and up and round and up and round and up to find a space. Walk five minutes to the store which has a queue at Customer Services, then walk back and *pay*, then go round and down and round and down and round and down and queue to exit. Then drive 10 miles home. Not quite 10 miles: 9.3 to Lion Yard or 7.4 to Park Street (which is a longer walk). In each case, about 3 quid for parking. Or 25 minutes each way on a bus for I forget what fare. But you've got the basics right. 25 minutes for a 10 mile bus journey is pretty good going are there no stops on the way |
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