Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a distributed system
and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access. I was able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the beginning of time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers reasonable
keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access. I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.


I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
2020, remarked:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a
distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access. I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers
reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

What's going on here is that the people purporting to sell the drugs
(let's assume for now they aren't actually trying to propagate
drive-by-malware) are sold a package of 'places/people we'll spam for
you' by a broker.

It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.
--
Roland Perry

On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
2020, remarked:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a
distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access.
I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the
beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers
reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of
all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the
group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the
demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

What's going on here is that the people purporting to sell the drugs
(let's assume for now they aren't actually trying to propagate
drive-by-malware) are sold a package of 'places/people we'll spam for
you' by a broker.

It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.

Certes wrote:
On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
2020, remarked:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a
distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access.
I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the
beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers
reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of
all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the
group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the
demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

What's going on here is that the people purporting to sell the drugs
(let's assume for now they aren't actually trying to propagate
drive-by-malware) are sold a package of 'places/people we'll spam for
you' by a broker.

It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.


Yes, that's probably about it. I don't suppose they ever tried to track how
many orders they got via this channel (almost certainly zero).

On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 01:56:55 +0100
Certes wrote:
On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.

Can only be a good thing long term. I suspect the only people who access
this group via google is the spammers.

wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 01:56:55 +0100
Certes wrote:
On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.

Can only be a good thing long term. I suspect the only people who access
this group via google is the spammers.

No, there were legitimate users as well — hence this thread on uk.transprt.

One person who may or may not be missed is Marcus Potter. He kept telling
us how computer literate he was, so I wonder if he'll find a way back?

Certes wrote:
On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
2020, remarked:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a
distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access.
I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the
beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers
reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of
all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the
group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the
demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

What's going on here is that the people purporting to sell the drugs
(let's assume for now they aren't actually trying to propagate
drive-by-malware) are sold a package of 'places/people we'll spam for
you' by a broker.

It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.

Interestingly I’ve seen one Ketamine etc ad since the cut off, ostensibly
injected into Usenet from XSUsenet.com with no sign of Google in the Path:
header or elsewhere.

I don’t know who XSUsenet are and I’m not sure I want to poke too hard.

Sam

--
The entity formerly known as
Spit the dummy to reply

On 12/10/2020 10:07, Sam Wilson wrote:
Certes wrote:
On 11/10/2020 17:19, Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:02:42 on Sun, 11 Oct
2020, remarked:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 11:32:43 -0000 (UTC)
Recliner wrote:
Arthur Conan Doyle wrote:
Or you could just use a different news server. Usenet is a
distributed system

and thankfully, Google does not control it, they just offer access.
I was
able
to add uk.railway from astraweb and downloaded over 1m headers.

Spam in unmoderated Usenet groups has been around since the
beginning of
time.
The traditional way of dealing with it is a newsreader than offers
reasonable

keyword and baysean filtering.


Unfortunately there are people who think that usenet groups are part of
Google Groups, and not something that existed long before Google was
invented. So when GG cuts off access to a usenet group, because of
all the
drug spam that was being injected via GG, those people think the
group is
dead and gone, hence the misleading title of this thread.

I'm curious as to which drug dealers are so dumb they think the
demographic
on usenet would be the slightest bit interested in their wares. They'd be
far better off spamming snapchat or tiktok in some way.

What's going on here is that the people purporting to sell the drugs
(let's assume for now they aren't actually trying to propagate
drive-by-malware) are sold a package of 'places/people we'll spam for
you' by a broker.

It's the broker who adds Usenet to that portfolio, and frankly the
spammers don't have much of an incentive to try to reduce the price by
asking them to desist from spamming Usenet.

Perhaps they have never heard of Usenet but target Google Groups, seeing
Google as a young trendy company with products attractive to drug users.
From their perspective, Google Groups used to run a forum called
uk.railway which has now been banned by Google and no longer exists.

Interestingly I’ve seen one Ketamine etc ad since the cut off, ostensibly
injected into Usenet from XSUsenet.com with no sign of Google in the Path:
header or elsewhere.

I don’t know who XSUsenet are and I’m not sure I want to poke too hard.

Sam

Much of the drug etc spam on Usenet seems to arrive via Google so it
would be best if they drop all Usenet groups.

Usenet was designed to use with clients and there are still plenty of
free PC ones. I cannot understand why anyone in this thread is lamenting
the loss of access from Google Groups except perhaps the dearth of free
Usenet clients to use on a phone.

In article , Sam Wilson
astmail.co.uk writes
big snip

I don’t know who XSUsenet are and I’m not sure I want to poke too hard.


XSUsenet.com is a news-reader (or do I mean "client"?) which (a) is free
and (b) carries binary groups like alt.binaries.pictures.rail.
--
Bill Borland