Ben Nunn wrote:
"Adam Smith" wrote in message
om...
I'm a student due to start my first job in the City next month (I'm
terrified, I've only ever been to London 5 times!!).

Can anyone give me any advice on how to get around London
late(ish) at night? From, say, Bank station to Hanger Lane. How
safe is the tube at about 11pm? Does anyone local know how much a
cab to the Hanger Lane
area from the City would cost?

Any advice really would be much appreciated,

This is just typical of the situtation in London these days -
people with no connection to the capital whatsoever are being
offered jobs, and relocating here, and indiginous Londoners are
forced further and further out to find work. It makes no sense at
all.

Hmm, nice welcome to our visitor. Are you suggesting that the
recruitment process was biased against Londoners? If so, on what
evidence?

Go to just about any office in London, and you'll find a ragbag of
regional accents, while unemployment (or economic inactivity) in
the inner London boroughs is sky high. This problem is *far* worse
than any scaremongering about asylum seekers.

Sorry, what exactly is the problem? That some people outside London
have had the courage and initiative to move in order to find suitable
employment?

And, yes, Bank to Hangar Lane is perfectly safe at any time, and is
a very easy commute. Single journey on the central line. Not ****ing
bus-tube-tube-intercity-cab like *my* journey into work.

Your choice, presumably. Still, you've apparently got a job that
enables you to take time off to access this NG, so it's not that bad.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

"Richard J." wrote in message
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Ben Nunn wrote:

Go to just about any office in London, and you'll find a ragbag of
regional accents, while unemployment (or economic inactivity) in
the inner London boroughs is sky high. This problem is *far* worse
than any scaremongering about asylum seekers.

Sorry, what exactly is the problem? That some people outside London
have had the courage and initiative to move in order to find suitable
employment?

Well said, Richard. Having recruited IT staff for City firms over several
years, one of the reasons that jobs go to people from outside London is
BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT SKILL SET.

It doesn't matter a jot where someone comes from, if they have the skills
required to do the job then they will GET the job. I've given jobs to
Londoners and those from outside London (some of whom moved to live in
London, some of whom commuted). I've interviewed some bloody awful, bloody
inept Londoners in my time. One of the biggest problems I've encountered is
their appalling communication skills, whether or not they have the technical
skills for the job. Regional accents are not a problem, being able to
communicate clearly and express oneself is. That is a skill that is sadly
lacking by many of the 'Estuary English' kids as they 'um', 'ah', 'like' and
'yer know' their way through a sentence, whilst mumbling into their chests.
Likewise their ability to write a clearly understandable document, correctly
punctuated and phrased.

That's not to say that there aren't some very fine Londoners available -
simply that there seems to be more willingness by those from the provinces
to get off their backsides, go to college elsewhere in the country, then
move to wherever they can obtain employment (whereas many Londoners seem to
prefer to stay local, presumably for the excellent London social life). As a
result they have a much broader experience of life.

I have never consciously selected for interview or appointed any staff based
upon their geographical origins, simply upon their technical skills for the
job, their communication skills and their social skills. The latter are
important when working as part of a small team - it's no good appointing
someone to a position where they have the technical skills to do the job but
upset the rest of the team because of their social incompatibility.
Similarly, in safety-critical jobs, communication skills are paramount.
Where split-second decisions have to be made, that have safety implications,
it is no good having to spend valuable time trying to decipher a badly
written, unclear document.

"Richard J." wrote in message
...

This is just typical of the situtation in London these days -
people with no connection to the capital whatsoever are being
offered jobs, and relocating here, and indiginous Londoners are
forced further and further out to find work. It makes no sense at
all.

Hmm, nice welcome to our visitor. Are you suggesting that the
recruitment process was biased against Londoners? If so, on what
evidence?


Well, for a start, the skillset of the inactive potential workforce in
London is entirely incompatible with most of the jobs that are available in
the capital, so it might not have been sensible to base the roles in London
in the first place, given the overcrowding of our infrastructure.

London suffers, because the poverty gap within the capital widens, and the
rest of the country suffers because their most talented people all end up in
London.


Go to just about any office in London, and you'll find a ragbag of
regional accents, while unemployment (or economic inactivity) in
the inner London boroughs is sky high. This problem is *far* worse
than any scaremongering about asylum seekers.

Sorry, what exactly is the problem? That some people outside London
have had the courage and initiative to move in order to find suitable
employment?


Did I have courage and initiative when I moved to take my job then? Of
course not - At a time when I needed a job, I went out and got one, and took
all the **** that goes with it. Gave me a nice chip on my shoulder too.


And, yes, Bank to Hangar Lane is perfectly safe at any time, and is
a very easy commute. Single journey on the central line. Not ****ing
bus-tube-tube-intercity-cab like *my* journey into work.

Your choice, presumably. Still, you've apparently got a job that
enables you to take time off to access this NG, so it's not that bad.


No, it's a pretty good job.

Just very irritating that I had to move out of London for it when there are
****loads of similar roles in London going to non-Londoners. Including, I
suspect, people from around here.

BTN