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Old June 28th 04, 09:57 AM posted to uk.transport,uk.transport.london
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Yes, I think what people are missing is that in effect these junctions
on the freeway have a dedicated truck-stop (very much equivalent to our
motorway services) built right next to it. All that differs from one to
the next is whether the fast food is Wendy, Burger King or Macdonalds.

Whereas the services *on* the freeway are more like a massive lay-by and
will have perhaps toilets, picnic area and a few vending machines.

In the UK there just isn't the space, or indeed the demand, to build the
truck-stop facilities. Or as some have hinted, the locals positively
don't want them.


Yes-and-no. Although there are some exits from Interstates that do indeed
fit the "truck stop" model, in many cases the signage will simply be to the
nearest local branch of Cracker Barrel or Arby's for food, or to the nearest
Exxon or Texaco for gasoline.

As to locals not wanting such things - well, there will be a distinctly
different view, I suspect, from the type of businesses who could increase
their volumes this way, and other elements of the community (trying hard to
avoid the emotive term "NIMBYs").


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In message , Bob Martin
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Although there are some exits from Interstates that do indeed
fit the "truck stop" model, in many cases the signage will simply be to the
nearest local branch of Cracker Barrel or Arby's for food, or to the nearest
Exxon or Texaco for gasoline.


Yes, and it depends a lot on whether the freeway is through a city, or
in the country. But as most freeways seem to be 95% in the countryside,
the truckstop model is very prevalent.

As to locals not wanting such things - well, there will be a distinctly
different view, I suspect, from the type of businesses who could increase
their volumes this way, and other elements of the community (trying hard to
avoid the emotive term "NIMBYs").


Yes, what use is a bit of green belt next to a motorway, anyway? It's
already been spoilt...
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Roland Perry
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