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Matthew P Jones July 4th 04 12:48 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Many thanks

Matthew


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Russell Wykes July 4th 04 03:23 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Many thanks

Matthew


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Yes, it's T stock.

The book Steam to Silver, An illustrated history of London Transport Surface
Railway Rolling Stock by J Graeme Bruce, if you can get hold of a copy, has
a good description of T stock and its forerunner, MW stock.

Russell Wykes.



Annabel Smyth July 4th 04 03:59 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 at 13:48:45, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Now, had they been going to have *that* train on today, I'd have gone!
I don't know what it is, I'm afraid - but I was near Amersham earlier
today and could possibly have gone on the tour, but am not enough
interested in 1938 stock to do so.

Thank you for posting the photographs.
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Website updated 6 June 2004

Matthew P Jones July 4th 04 05:00 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
In reply to news post, which Russell Wykes
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Many thanks

Matthew


--
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it
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Yes, it's T stock.

The book Steam to Silver, An illustrated history of London Transport Surface
Railway Rolling Stock by J Graeme Bruce, if you can get hold of a copy, has
a good description of T stock and its forerunner, MW stock.

Russell Wykes.

Thanks Russell, I've seen the book in question on Ebay, but have always
lost out in the bidding!

As someone else on the thread has posted, if a T stock train had run
today that might have been interesting - are any preserved?

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Russell Wykes July 4th 04 06:40 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
In reply to news post, which Russell Wykes
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am

I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Many thanks

Matthew


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like
it
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Yes, it's T stock.

The book Steam to Silver, An illustrated history of London Transport

Surface
Railway Rolling Stock by J Graeme Bruce, if you can get hold of a copy,

has
a good description of T stock and its forerunner, MW stock.

Russell Wykes.

Thanks Russell, I've seen the book in question on Ebay, but have always
lost out in the bidding!

As someone else on the thread has posted, if a T stock train had run
today that might have been interesting - are any preserved?

--
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www.amersham.org.uk
My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like

it
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I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.

Good luck in your hunt for the book, it's an excellent resource. I bought
mine for the princely sum of £3 in 1975 !

Russell Wykes



Matthew P Jones July 4th 04 07:41 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
In reply to news post, which Russell Wykes
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -

As someone else on the thread has posted, if a T stock train had run
today that might have been interesting - are any preserved?

--
Matthew P Jones - www.amersham.org.uk
My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like

I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.


I think I remember seeing these or something similar parked in the bay
platform at Rickmansworth on some winter mornings in the 1970s. At the
time I wrote to London Transport and they told me they were de icing
trains


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Russell Wykes July 4th 04 08:08 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
In reply to news post, which Russell Wykes
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -

As someone else on the thread has posted, if a T stock train had run
today that might have been interesting - are any preserved?

--
Matthew P Jones - www.amersham.org.uk
My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I

like
I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and

were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I

don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.


I think I remember seeing these or something similar parked in the bay
platform at Rickmansworth on some winter mornings in the 1970s. At the
time I wrote to London Transport and they told me they were de icing
trains


--
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My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like

it
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Since my earlier post I've done a little more research.

I have ESL118A & B listed in my 1978 copy of London Underground Rolling
Stock, but they're not listed in my 1988 copy, so I presume they must have
been withdrawn and disposed of by then. There is a picture of them in the
bay platform at Rickmansworth in the 1978 book.

Russell Wykes



Chris July 4th 04 08:35 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
The Science Museum library has two copies available
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/library/visitor.asp

Anyone is allowed to go in (it's free but you need to take some ID with
you). It's near South Kensington tube.
Walk up Exhibition road or the subway from the tube. Turn left just past
the Science museum. Follow the footpath in a straight line and it takes you
to the joint Imperial College / Science museum library.

The transport books are on level three near the windows.

Chris

"Russell Wykes" wrote in message
...

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm


Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?

Many thanks

Matthew


--
Matthew P Jones - www.amersham.org.uk
My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like

it
Don't reply to it will not be read
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Yes, it's T stock.

The book Steam to Silver, An illustrated history of London Transport

Surface
Railway Rolling Stock by J Graeme Bruce, if you can get hold of a copy,

has
a good description of T stock and its forerunner, MW stock.

Russell Wykes.





Keith J Chesworth July 4th 04 09:12 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
snip
I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.

Good luck in your hunt for the book, it's an excellent resource. I bought
mine for the princely sum of £3 in 1975 !

Russell Wykes

I think I saw them at the LT Museum depot

Keith J Chesworth
www.unseenlondon.co.uk
www.blackpooltram.co.uk
www.happysnapper.com
www.boilerbill.com - main site
www.amerseyferry.co.uk


Stuart Johnson July 4th 04 09:14 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:00:52 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

Thanks Russell, I've seen the book in question on Ebay, but have always
lost out in the bidding!


There's one on eBay now!
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Ken Wheatley July 4th 04 10:49 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:48:45 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

Excellent.

Is it just me, or does the 1938 stock look surprisingly not
old-fashioned?

simon July 5th 04 06:38 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
Keith J Chesworth wrote in message . ..
snip
I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.


ESL118A and ESL119B did survive - they can now be found at the Spa Valley
Railway, Tunbridge Wells

Matthew P Jones July 5th 04 07:37 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
In reply to news post, which Ken Wheatley
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:48:45 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

Excellent.

Is it just me, or does the 1938 stock look surprisingly not
old-fashioned?


It my be the 1930s styling, or the fact that underground trains just
look better red, but it did not look out of place in 2004
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Matthew P Jones July 5th 04 07:38 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
In reply to news post, which Stuart Johnson
wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 -
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:00:52 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

Thanks Russell, I've seen the book in question on Ebay, but have always
lost out in the bidding!


There's one on eBay now!


Just ordered it from Amazon!
--
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My view of the Metropolitan Line www.metroland.org.uk - actually I like it
Don't reply to it will not be read
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Matthew P Jones July 5th 04 07:42 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
In reply to news post, which simon wrote on Mon,
5 Jul 2004 -
Keith J Chesworth wrote in message
...
snip
I don't believe any were preserved Matthew, which is a real shame.

Two motor coaches, 2758 and 2749, were converted during 1961 into a
double-unit sleet locomotive and were numbered ESL118A and ESL 119B and were
based at Neasden. I imagine they've long since been withdrawn but I don't
know for sure. Perhaps one of the 'Underground' readers of the newsgroup
might be able to help.


ESL118A and ESL119B did survive - they can now be found at the Spa Valley
Railway, Tunbridge Wells



Thanks for that, there is a picture at


http://www.spavalleyrailway.co.uk/SpaT-Stock_04.htm




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Peter Wright July 5th 04 08:11 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
Matthew P Jones wrote in
:

Thanks for that, there is a picture at
http://www.spavalleyrailway.co.uk/SpaT-Stock_04.htm



Pictured at Rickmansworth, April 1970...

http://pages.britishlibrary.net/over...0040605/r1.jpg
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/over...0040605/r2.jpg

Sorry about the picture quality, the negatives are deteriorating rapidly.


Boltar July 5th 04 08:39 PM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 
Ken Wheatley wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 13:48:45 +0100, Matthew P Jones
wrote:

For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See

Excellent.

Is it just me, or does the 1938 stock look surprisingly not
old-fashioned?


From the outside it doesn't look too old but step inside and its
definately a trip back in time. And none the worse for it either IMO.
The interior designers of the new tube stocks could have learnt a
thing or to about subtlety from these old trains.

B2003

Marratxi July 8th 04 09:17 AM

1938 Stock on Uxbridge 100 and T Stock?
 

"Matthew P Jones" wrote in message
...
For those interested I have put some pictures of the 1938 stock at
Amersham when it called as part of the Uxbridge 100 tour. See
http://www.metroland.nildram.co.uk/a...ro/metmisc.htm
Also on the page (top photo) is a picture I have been sent of Amersham
in 1961. Can anyone confirm what type of train is in the picture? Am I
right in assuming it was T stock?
Many thanks
Matthew

T stock was a favourite of mine and I have collected quite a few photos
(many from the Models of Hull Collection) including scans from magazines
such as Railway Bylines. Unfortunately I still haven't discovered how to use
my Wanadoo webspace so can't put them on show but if anybody is sufficiently
interested I'll gladly send copies.
Cheerz,
Baz




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