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Rob July 10th 04 09:53 AM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
Why are the up/east platforms a lot longer than the down/west? Also
did there use to be a 4track system down there?

Peter Lawrence July 10th 04 04:27 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
On 10 Jul 2004 02:53:27 -0700, (Rob)
wrote:

Why are the up/east platforms a lot longer than the down/west? Also
did there use to be a 4track system down there?


Which do you mean, Kew Gardens or Gunnersbury?

Anyway Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.
--
Peter Lawrence

Paul Robertson July 10th 04 04:56 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.
--
Paul Robertson )
Glasgow (remove zzz from above to reply)


Peter Lawrence July 11th 04 06:51 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Paul Robertson
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.


Thankyou. I see what was meant!

In "Railways Then and Now" by Edwin Course (1979) there are 'before
and after' photos of Gunnersbury showing the original extent of the
station. The reason for the apparent extension of the NB platform
face does not emerge though.
--
Peter Lawrence

John Rowland July 11th 04 10:23 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message
...
On 10 Jul 2004 02:53:27 -0700, (Rob)
wrote:

Why are the up/east platforms a lot longer than the down/west? Also
did there use to be a 4track system down there?


Which do you mean, Kew Gardens or Gunnersbury?

Anyway Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


Not really, what about the island at Stratford with the DLR platform? Also
Greenwich for a different example.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes



Rob July 12th 04 08:30 AM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message ...
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Paul Robertson
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.


Thankyou. I see what was meant!

In "Railways Then and Now" by Edwin Course (1979) there are 'before
and after' photos of Gunnersbury showing the original extent of the
station. The reason for the apparent extension of the NB platform
face does not emerge though.


Thanx for the replys, i couldn't find that pic. where should i look?

Guy Gorton July 12th 04 10:26 AM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Paul Robertson
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.


Is the extension to the north bound platform to allow the starter
signal at the other end of the platform to be set back further from
the junction which is immediately beyond the station?

Guy Gorton

Peter Lawrence July 12th 04 05:36 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
On 12 Jul 2004 01:30:56 -0700, (Rob)
wrote:

"Peter Lawrence" wrote in message ...
In "Railways Then and Now" by Edwin Course (1979) there are 'before
and after' photos of Gunnersbury showing the original extent of the
station. The reason for the apparent extension of the NB platform
face does not emerge though.


Thanx for the replys, i couldn't find that pic. where should i look?


Pages 24-25.

--
Peter Lawrence

Rob July 12th 04 07:00 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
Guy Gorton wrote in message . ..
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Paul Robertson
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island platform
which makes it difficult for one face to be longer than the other.


But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.


Is the extension to the north bound platform to allow the starter
signal at the other end of the platform to be set back further from
the junction which is immediately beyond the station?

Guy Gorton


nope, your level with the train on the other platform. also did kew have a bay road?

Richard J. July 12th 04 08:19 PM

Kew Gardens and gunnersbury
 
Rob wrote:
Guy Gorton wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 16:56:13 +0000 (UTC), Paul Robertson
wrote:

Peter Lawrence wrote:
Gunnersbury had 4 or 5 platforms in the 19th century and has
been shrinking in stages ever since. It is now one island
platform which makes it difficult for one face to be longer
than the other.

But it's possible. I've reposted a pic on a.b.p.r, entitled
LUL-L66atGunnersbury10-2-88TW, which shows the difference.


Is the extension to the north bound platform to allow the starter
signal at the other end of the platform to be set back further
from the junction which is immediately beyond the station?

Guy Gorton


nope, your level with the train on the other platform.


There is a small offset, primarily because the stairs down to the
platform are very near the northbound face, which means that the TV
monitors have to be south of the stairs. But the southern extension of
the northbound platform is longer than needed to compensate for this,
and most of it is not required for a 6-car D-stock train. Silverlink
Metro (NLL) trains are generally (always?) shorter.

also did kew have a bay road?


Kew Gardens? I don't know about a bay platform, but it probably had a
coal yard or goods yard. If you look at old maps of Kew at
www.old-maps.co.uk , you can see evidence of a railway yard just north
of the station building.

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)





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