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Colin Rosenstiel September 10th 04 08:57 PM

Routemaster lament
 
In article ,
(Colin Rosenstiel) wrote:

In article ,
(Terry Harper) wrote:

"Boltar" wrote in message
om...

I was just going by the GVW on the side of them. I believe its
something like 16600kg but its been a while since I've looked.


GVW and Unladen Weight are not the same thing.


The UW is painted on FFS! Someone must have seen the relevant figure,
surely?


I had a better look today. Three 73s were all 16480Kg and a true lard butt
on the 453 in Whitehall was 16,640Kg. That's more than two Routemasters
each and with fewer seats than one!

--
Colin Rosenstiel

Colin McKenzie September 10th 04 10:51 PM

Routemaster lament
 
Neil Williams wrote:

On 8 Sep 2004 08:52:29 -0700, (Boltar) wrote:


And a modern double decker weights 11 or 12 tons. You have to wonder where
that extra 3 or 4 tons of flab was needed.



Length, width, height, interior trim and glass. A modern decker is
*substantially* larger in all dimensions than a Routemaster.


But the 1970s/80s generation of high-floor double-deckers were only
around the 10 ton mark, and they're not much smaller than modern
low-floor deckers. And no way were they as much as 25% bigger in area
than RMLs - 12% longer, 4% wider (and no taller).

Obvious conclusion: lots of extra metal needed to put the engine at
the back, lots more again to make low-floor buses strong enough, and
enormous amounts to keep a bendi-bus rigid and flexible in the right
places.

Colin McKenzie

--
The great advantage of not trusting statistics is that
it leaves you free to believe the damned lies instead!


Adrian September 13th 04 08:07 PM

Routemaster lament
 
Colin McKenzie ) gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying :

Obvious conclusion: lots of extra metal needed to put the engine at
the back, lots more again to make low-floor buses strong enough, and
enormous amounts to keep a bendi-bus rigid and flexible in the right
places.


I wonder how heavy the Bendibuses that Sheffield used in the 80s were?

Neil Williams September 13th 04 10:31 PM

Routemaster lament
 
On 13 Sep 2004 20:07:28 GMT, Adrian
wrote:

I wonder how heavy the Bendibuses that Sheffield used in the 80s were?


Or, indeed (to compare like for like), the old high-floor Mercedes
O405 derivative bendies occasionally found in Germany.

Neil

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