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Robin May August 25th 04 04:10 PM

Crossrail.
 
Iain Bowen wrote the following in:


In article ,
says...

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


So do the Dutch.


So do the Americans.

--
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"The British don't like successful people" - said by British failures

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Piccadilly Pilot August 25th 04 04:36 PM

Crossrail.
 
Tony Day wrote:
"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:10:13 +0100 someone who may be "David Wilcox"
wrote this:-

It might be more convenient for passengers if Crossrail were to be
constructed for shorter, double deck, trains. They do seem to be
popular with operators in other countries for commuter services,
e.g. Germany, USA, Australia.

Shorter trains would mean shorter walks for passengers at stations.


Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.



Roland Perry August 25th 04 04:41 PM

Crossrail.
 
In message , at 16:36:29 on Wed, 25
Aug 2004, Piccadilly Pilot remarked:
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.


So the French have stations with double-deck platforms? Interesting.
--
Roland Perry

David Hansen August 25th 04 04:55 PM

Crossrail.
 
On 25 Aug 2004 16:10:30 GMT someone who may be Robin May
wrote this:-

Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.

The French seem to manage!


So do the Dutch.


So do the Americans.


They manage. However, loading and unloading large numbers of people
at central stations is slow. No great problem with small numbers of
passengers.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E
I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government
prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

Richard J. August 25th 04 05:07 PM

Crossrail.
 
Tony Day wrote:
"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 00:10:13 +0100 someone who may be "David
Wilcox" wrote this:-

It might be more convenient for passengers if Crossrail were to be
constructed for shorter, double deck, trains. They do seem to be
popular with operators in other countries for commuter services,
e.g. Germany, USA, Australia.

Shorter trains would mean shorter walks for passengers at
stations.


Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.


The French seem to manage!


But on the RER lines with double-deck trains, they are quite slow
through central Paris, with long station dwell times, for precisely the
reason that David stated.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)


Piccadilly Pilot August 25th 04 05:41 PM

Crossrail.
 
Robin May wrote:
Iain Bowen wrote the following in:


In article ,
says...

"David Hansen" wrote in message
...
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.

The French seem to manage!


So do the Dutch.


So do the Americans.


All of whose infrastructure allows much larger vehicles than does the UK's
network.



Piccadilly Pilot August 25th 04 05:58 PM

Crossrail.
 
Roland Perry wrote:
In message , at 16:36:29 on Wed,
25 Aug 2004, Piccadilly Pilot remarked:
Unless one has double-deck platforms, loading and unloading such
trains will always be a slow operation given the way such trains
have to be laid out.

The French seem to manage!


Their infrastructre allows it, ours doesn't.


So the French have stations with double-deck platforms? Interesting.


If that's the spin you wish to put on my comment that's your prerogative.



Robin May August 25th 04 05:59 PM

Crossrail.
 
"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote the following
in:

Robin May wrote:
Iain Bowen wrote the following in:


In article ,
says...
The French seem to manage!

So do the Dutch.


So do the Americans.


All of whose infrastructure allows much larger vehicles than does
the UK's network.


I was just joining in with the "name a country with double decker
trains" game!

--
message by the incredible Robin May.
"The British don't like successful people" - said by British failures

Who is Abi Titmuss? What is she? Why is she famous?
http://robinmay.fotopic.net

Piccadilly Pilot August 25th 04 07:09 PM

Crossrail.
 

"Robin May" wrote in message
...
"Piccadilly Pilot" wrote the following
in:

Robin May wrote:
Iain Bowen wrote the following in:


In article ,
says...
The French seem to manage!

So do the Dutch.

So do the Americans.


All of whose infrastructure allows much larger vehicles than does
the UK's network.


I was just joining in with the "name a country with double decker
trains" game!


Quite, I simply making the point for those who may not realise it, that the
underside of a continental or American bridge is further away from the rail
than are ours.



Roland Perry August 25th 04 07:14 PM

Crossrail.
 
In message , at 17:55:37 on
Wed, 25 Aug 2004, David Hansen
remarked:
They manage. However, loading and unloading large numbers of people
at central stations is slow.


I've seen the Dutch managing, and very well. Everyone who is going to
get off at a station congregates towards the vestibules, so they can get
off as soon as the doors open. None of this UK nonsense where people
look up from their paper/phone when the train has stopped and ask "is
this X", and then rush to the doors obstructing the people who are now
getting on. The Japanese also have very good discipline getting on and
off trains.
--
Roland Perry


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