Dave Arquati schrieb:

I found riding buses in London to be quite difficult because
information is not very complete. But the underground network is cool.


That's interesting. What don't you consider complete about the
information? In my (probably more limited) experience, London has the
Mainly its the onboard information i found missing. Travelling to
Crystal Palace on a bus i was constantly looking outside for some
building that might be a palace... Whereas i would have preferred to
drowse and just glimpse at some kind of in-bus display once in a while...
Also i would have liked a map with all bus lines on them (yes, this
would have to be very very huge). My Hamburg town map shows bus lines,
for example. Does an A-Z show bus lines?

most comprehensive bus information of anywhere I have ever been. For
example: the spider maps (although I know John dislikes them :-) ).
Yeah, its quite comprehensive, Hamburg surely isn't better than London
in this regard. But IMHO its not perfect. Problem: I don't know how
offboard information (at the stop) could be made much better.

What i found very good was the Countdown system. Hamburg is just now
starting to install something similar.

online information (www.journeyplanner.org). The WAP version of TfL's
site also extremely comprehensive and valuable information.
Yes, WAP is cool. I got a flat tariff for WAP now (5 Euro per month for
unlimited WAP) and this changed my journey habits very much. I use
http://mobile.bahn.de/ as my journey planner for everywhere now, it
knows all Hamburg transport systems, most of germany, and it will even
tell me London rail timetables. This is so useful.
And for getting to stations http://pda.mappy.com/ shows me the way
everywhere...

Gunnar