"David Bradley" wrote in message
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On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:39 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
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Yep, that will do nicely; stick a couple of poles
on top for eco friendly operation and hey presto
a rubber tyred tram without all that hassell of utility
diversion during construction and a world bank loan
to build a tramway.

David Bradley

Have you ever posted a message to Usenet
that didn't advocate trolleybuses?

Well one thing is for sure there's never going to
be an extensive tramway system in London and
the cost of fuel oil is going to rise year on end until
supplies are exhausted. Only public transport that
is electrically feed from an external source is viable
today, and that remains so for many years to come,
despite al the trials of alternative fuels currently
being pursued.

In the same way that 20 years ago trams were viewed
as yesterdays technology, and yet today they are a
mode a transit that most cities desire; the same
scenario continues for rubber tyred trams or
trolleybuses or whatever trendy name you wish to use.

There is nothing wrong in raising awareness of
what is happening elsewhere in Europe in the public
transport arena* and considering if we should adopt
similar solutions in the UK. I happen to believe there
is a place for trolleybus operations here and that their
new image will indeed be a step change with a
significant modal change for passengers. But before
that happens they have to be at least on the agenda
for serious consideration and not swept under the
carpet with sarcastic one line messages.

David Bradley

* Geneva now has new double artic trolleybuses

I'll take that as a "no" then.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:53:42 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"David Bradley" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:39 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
.. .

snip

Have you ever posted a message to Usenet
that didn't advocate trolleybuses?

snip


I'll take that as a "no" then.

I am at a loss to understand why someone would wish to knock another
fellow public transit supporter and lifetime enthusiast who is making
an attempt to improve services in London. Last time I looked this was
a Usenet discussion group on transport matters relating to London, so
my occassional postings on trolleybuses seems appropriate here.

Not everything I post here relates to trolleybuses alone as I have a
much wider interest than that mode of transit. It is however
interesting to note you have picked up my relatively few postings [or
rantings if that's how you feel] on trolleybuses. Clearly someone is
making notes on what I say judging by discussions at the recent GLA
meeting on transport.

Apart from reporting on events, either here or through your web site,
what contribution are you actually making to the improvement of public
transport in the Capital? We would all like to know!

David Bradley

David Bradley wrote:
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:53:42 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"David Bradley" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:39 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
...

snip

Have you ever posted a message to Usenet
that didn't advocate trolleybuses?

snip


I'll take that as a "no" then.

I am at a loss to understand why someone would wish to knock another
fellow public transit supporter and lifetime enthusiast who is
making an attempt to improve services in London. Last time I
looked this was a Usenet discussion group on transport matters
relating to London, so my occassional postings on trolleybuses
seems appropriate here.

Not everything I post here relates to trolleybuses alone as I have a
much wider interest than that mode of transit. It is however
interesting to note you have picked up my relatively few postings
[or rantings if that's how you feel] on trolleybuses. Clearly
someone is making notes on what I say judging by discussions at the
recent GLA meeting on transport.

Apart from reporting on events, either here or through your web
site, what contribution are you actually making to the improvement
of public transport in the Capital? We would all like to know!

Lighten up, David!

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, David Bradley wrote:

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 15:53:42 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:

"David Bradley" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 12:39:39 +0100, "John Rowland"
wrote:
"David Bradley" wrote in message
.. .

snip

Have you ever posted a message to Usenet
that didn't advocate trolleybuses?

snip

I'll take that as a "no" then.

I am at a loss to understand why someone would wish to knock another
fellow public transit supporter and lifetime enthusiast who is making
an attempt to improve services in London.

Listen! And understand! John Rowland is out there. He can't be bargained
with! He can't be reasoned with! He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or
fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until he gets bored!

(with apologies to James Cameron)

tom

--
roger and kay payne, symmetry, piercing, archaeology, position, in ,,

"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
...

Listen! And understand! John Rowland is out there.
He can't be bargained with! He can't be reasoned with!
He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear.
And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until he gets bored!

**** you, asshole! ;-)

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes