How many people could this station turn around...?
 

....and how was it done? The "spur" sidings between the platforms
(points either end) seem important:

http://www.wymann.info/EpsomDowns/EpsomDowns.html
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...s/index4.shtml

I was expecting an angry reaction to the following but in the absence of
any anger I admit it is rather a good point. In the 1900's there were no
houses only the college for miles around Epsom Downs Station. Does the
1 platform station nowadays handle more annually than the 9 platform
station? What is a Derby crowd - 300,000?

"Troy Steadman" wrote in message
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"titans" wrote in message


How does a reduction in platforms correlate to declining passenger numbers?

Is this a serious question or are you being funny?





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"Troy Steadman" wrote in message
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...and how was it done? The "spur" sidings between the platforms
(points either end) seem important:

http://www.wymann.info/EpsomDowns/EpsomDowns.html
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...s/index4.shtml

I was expecting an angry reaction to the following but in the absence of
any anger I admit it is rather a good point. In the 1900's there were no
houses only the college for miles around Epsom Downs Station. Does the
1 platform station nowadays handle more annually than the 9 platform
station? What is a Derby crowd - 300,000?

When the line was double track the signalling probably didn't allow trains
at closer headways than 5 minutes, so the station could probably handle
around 6000 passengers per hour. Now the single track from Sutton doesn't
permit better than 24 minute headways, in reality 2 trains per hour or 1500
passengers per hour. As pointed out in the website your post links to, since
1901 Tattenham Corner has been a better sited station for the Epsom
racecourse, and it retains double track and extra trains on Derby and Oaks
days.

One occasion when the railways failed to cope with the Derby Day crowds was
1838, when the London & Southampton Railway advertised special trains from
Nine Elms to the station later named Surbiton (the publicity didn't mention
the 6 mile walk) and was completely overwhelmed by the demand.

Peter

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"Troy Steadman" wrote in message
news:d5a9a4b5447d3523444bdb3aee87db78.125090@mygat e.mailgate.org...
...and how was it done? The "spur" sidings between the platforms
(points either end) seem important:

http://www.wymann.info/EpsomDowns/EpsomDowns.html
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/sb-sites/s...s/index4.shtml

I was expecting an angry reaction to the following but in the absence of
any anger I admit it is rather a good point. In the 1900's there were no
houses only the college for miles around Epsom Downs Station. Does the
1 platform station nowadays handle more annually than the 9 platform
station? What is a Derby crowd - 300,000?

"Troy Steadman" wrote in message
news:1f4631c3ec204b25de2d961141fa82fa.125090@mygat e.mailgate.org
"titans" wrote in message


How does a reduction in platforms correlate to declining passenger
numbers?

Is this a serious question or are you being funny?
More examining the logic behind the original question. As modern trains
have greater carrying capacity than the older types. More frequent services
and quicker turn round times. I fail to see that a reduction in platform
capacity is indicative of declining passenger numbers.Even a shorter
platforms could be misleading as modern passenger trains no longer need to
cater for mail and parcels and again services are more frequent.




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"titans" wrote in message ...

Is this a serious question or are you being funny?

More examining the logic behind the original question. As modern trains
have greater carrying capacity than the older types. More frequent services
and quicker turn round times. I fail to see that a reduction in platform
capacity is indicative of declining passenger numbers.Even a shorter
platforms could be misleading as modern passenger trains no longer need to
cater for mail and parcels and again services are more frequent.

More examining the logic behind the original answer.

Fact:
Epsom Downs Station has reduced from 9 platforms to 1.

Your conclusion:
Gives no indication whether passenger numbers are increasing or decreasing.

Made up fact:
Epsom Downs Station has increased from 9 platforms to 18.

Your conclusion:
....?

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(Troy Steadman) wrote:

[snip]

More examining the logic behind the original answer.

Fact:
Epsom Downs Station has reduced from 9 platforms to 1.

Your conclusion:
Gives no indication whether passenger numbers are increasing or decreasing.

Made up fact:
Epsom Downs Station has increased from 9 platforms to 18.


Someone's got the map the wrong way round...

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On 26 Oct 2004 01:47:55 -0700, Troy Steadman wrote:

Made up fact:
Epsom Downs Station has increased from 9 platforms to 18.

Your conclusion:
...?

Train services are about to be withdrawn and the station will then
complete its conversion to a servicing depot?

;-)

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