Doesn't sound too different from when I used to go to Stamford Bridge in the
late-'60s/early-'70s. Except in those days you had large crowds of
skinheads - on foot of course and heading to/from the tube stations - to
negotiate.

Did Wandsworth Bridge Road become log-jammed for up to 2 hours after each match
in those days? I certainly don't recall this, and I've been living here for 39
years.



I don't see how you can argue your claim is as great, though. Your argument
appears as valid as if some yuppy who bought into Fulham in the 80's wanted
your family to move away because you're reminiscent of when Fulham was a
toilet.



That's, with respect, utter rubbish. Firstly, my parents were amongst the first
private-owners in our stretch of road (since 1963), and it had been in
multiple-occupation when they bought it. By comparison to the dilapidated
Council houses on each side of and behanind ours it was (and is) a model of
smartness, and as for respectability, my parents were (and are) an epitome of
middle-class respectability, holding the spare keys for countless neighbours,
feedng their cats and fish when they are on holiday etc.

Leaving the ineptness of your comparison, I really don't see the comparison you
are trying to make.

I am not suggesting that Chelsea and Fulham F.C.s move because they are
football clubs - I have no time whatsoever for that "sport" but that is not my
complaint. My complaint is that the nature of their presence has fundamentally
CHANGED, in that a large number of extra cars inserted into this area once a
week (or whatever) is simply ridiculous and a major detriment to the quality of
life of those who live here. Planning consent for this type of development
would NEVER be granted nowadays - it would not even get past the environmental
impact stage.

Marc.

"Mait001" wrote in message
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Doesn't sound too different from when I used to go to Stamford Bridge in
the
late-'60s/early-'70s. Except in those days you had large crowds of
skinheads - on foot of course and heading to/from the tube stations - to
negotiate.

Did Wandsworth Bridge Road become log-jammed for up to 2 hours after each
match
in those days? I certainly don't recall this, and I've been living here
for 39
years.


It varied, but it was murder in almost every case - and it depended on how
many other London clubs were playing too. Of course, then, everyone played
3.00 PM Saturday.



I don't see how you can argue your claim is as great, though. Your
argument
appears as valid as if some yuppy who bought into Fulham in the 80's
wanted
your family to move away because you're reminiscent of when Fulham was a
toilet.



That's, with respect, utter rubbish. Firstly, my parents were amongst the
first
private-owners in our stretch of road (since 1963), and it had been in
multiple-occupation when they bought it. By comparison to the dilapidated
Council houses on each side of and behanind ours it was (and is) a model
of
smartness, and as for respectability, my parents were (and are) an epitome
of
middle-class respectability, holding the spare keys for countless
neighbours,
feedng their cats and fish when they are on holiday etc.

You seem unable to appreciate the point that the hypothetical argument is
meant to be baseless - just as, frankly, yours is. What the hell does your
family's *middle-class respectability* have to do with anything? Are you
failing to get the point that the hypothetical yuppy is supposed to be a
shallow prick?


Leaving the ineptness of your comparison, I really don't see the
comparison you
are trying to make.

I am not suggesting that Chelsea and Fulham F.C.s move because they are
football clubs - I have no time whatsoever for that "sport"

The national "sport", you mean?

but that is not my
complaint. My complaint is that the nature of their presence has
fundamentally
CHANGED, in that a large number of extra cars inserted into this area once
a
week (or whatever) is simply ridiculous and a major detriment to the
quality of
life of those who live here. Planning consent for this type of
development
would NEVER be granted nowadays - it would not even get past the
environmental
impact stage.


I don't really care about your complaint. You're a snob.


Shane

It varied, but it was murder in almost every case - and it depended on how
many other London clubs were playing too. Of course, then, everyone played
3.00 PM Saturday.

Point taken, but I can remember vast stretches of empty road, even around
3.p.m. on Saturday afternoons.

What the hell does your
family's *middle-class respectability* have to do with anything?

You, not me, were referring to yuppies or whatever wanting other longer-present
residents to leave since it reminded them of Fulham's previously humbler
status. I was merely pointing out that not ALL of the people who have lived in
Fulham since pre-yuppie days were guttersnipes, as you seemed to imply.

Are you
failing to get the point that the hypothetical yuppy is supposed to be a
shallow prick?

If that is your opinion, you are entitled to it. I know somevery nice yuppies,
some horrible ones and everything inbetween. The same for people of all classes
and backgrounds. I would NEVER resort to stereotypes as freely as you seem to.

- I have no time whatsoever for that "sport"

The national "sport", you mean?


Indeed, I regard it as a business where some dubious individuals make a lot of
money and a lot of hapless individuals are quite happy to give them that money.


I regard cricket as my national sport - as indeed did England until relatively
recently.

I don't really care about your complaint.

So why bother to interact with me?

You're a snob.

Flattery will get you nowhere.

Marc.