"Carlos" typed


Anyway I would happily lose money and time just to give Barnet Council a
headache.

Please do ;-)

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

"JohnB" wrote in message
...

Anyway I would happily lose money and time just to give Barnet Council a
headache.

And just how do you think Barnet Council will recoup the costs you
impose on them?

John B

Is that any reason not to request that his costs are not met?

"Carlos" wrote in message
...

Clearly the parking attendant was trying it on, aware that a certain
percentage probably just pay up. But I want to make a stand and sue the
council for wasting my time. Would I be reasonable in charging a £50 admin
charge for having to issue an explanatory note..?

Cheers


Similar thing happened to me in North Yorks - I asked them to refund my
costs - postage - time taken to write letter explaining why the parking fine
was not applicable - time spent on phone calls to the council etc etc
They happily waived the parking charge, but said it was not their "policy"
to refund costs incurred despite their error.
So effectivley N Yorks County Council are telling me they cannot be sued no
matter what they do wrong.
I did consider going to the local press with details of the debacle - but in
the end just couldn't be bothered any more and have since stopped using the
council car park.

Ham Spunter wrote:

"JohnB" wrote in message
...

Anyway I would happily lose money and time just to give Barnet Council a
headache.

And just how do you think Barnet Council will recoup the costs you
impose on them?

John B

Is that any reason not to request that his costs are not met?

Not if that's what he wants to do.

So, back to my question - How will Barnet will recover _their_ costs?

hint re-arrange: payers, tax

John B

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...
Carlos wrote:
By wasting yet more time pursuing a frivolous action? I suppose
some people might think there's logic in that approach, but their
probably
the ones with too much time on their hands.

If your time is valuable enough to contemplate suing for it being
wasted, its too valuable to waste in pursuing the course of action
you propose.

If I could just rip up the ticket and forget about it then I
wouldn't mind at all.

But I have to be proactive in disputing this to avoid bailiffs
knocking on my door, which means writing a letter, photocopying the
tickets, travelling to town in my lunchbreak and queuing for 20
minutes to send it recorded delivery...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.

The only way to contact them is by post, they obviously prefer to keep irate
drivers at bay.

"Richard J." wrote in message
.uk...

Oh, for goodness sake! Just phone them up and explain what happened.
If it's as clear-cut as you say it is, they'll probably rescind the
ticket straight away. They can hardly pursue a penalty if the time of
the "offence" is during the free parking period.
--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Trust me - the phone call doesn't work... the OP is likely to have to go
through what I did - sending photocopies etc...

I encountered a similar situation and considered letting it go through the
system - to court stage if need be and watching them waste their time trying
to persue the penalty charge - then I thought it might not be looked upon so
kindly if the court knew I could have acted to nip it in the bud and didn't.
However the council were not as agreeable as you naively point out - I did
try resolving over the phone - council policy was that everything had to be
in writing with copies of the ticket/permit etc sent in recorded delivery.

Similar thing happened to me in North Yorks - I asked them to refund my
costs - postage - time taken to write letter explaining why the parking
fine was not applicable - time spent on phone calls to the council etc etc
They happily waived the parking charge, but said it was not their "policy"
to refund costs incurred despite their error.
So effectivley N Yorks County Council are telling me they cannot be sued
no matter what they do wrong.

Well done for trying at least.

In message , JohnB writes
Ham Spunter wrote:

"JohnB" wrote in message
...

Anyway I would happily lose money and time just to give Barnet Council a
headache.

And just how do you think Barnet Council will recoup the costs you
impose on them?

John B

Is that any reason not to request that his costs are not met?

Not if that's what he wants to do.

So, back to my question - How will Barnet will recover _their_ costs?

hint re-arrange: payers, tax

So everybody will be expected to contribute towards unnecessary costs
incurred by the council's ineptitude rather than just him? Sounds (a)
less unfair and (b) nothing new.

--
Steve Walker

Steve Walker wrote:

In message , JohnB writes
Ham Spunter wrote:

"JohnB" wrote in message
...

Anyway I would happily lose money and time just to give Barnet Council a
headache.

And just how do you think Barnet Council will recoup the costs you
impose on them?

John B

Is that any reason not to request that his costs are not met?

Not if that's what he wants to do.

So, back to my question - How will Barnet will recover _their_ costs?

hint re-arrange: payers, tax

So everybody will be expected to contribute towards unnecessary costs
incurred by the council's ineptitude rather than just him? Sounds (a)
less unfair and (b) nothing new.

Thats how local authorities work :-(

....or rather don't.

John B

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:15:52 -0000, "Carlos"
wrote:

I parked in a pay-and-display area at 17:05. Put £1 in the machine (charge
is £1/hr) and the ticket came out valid until 17:30 after which time parking
is free. The signage also confirmed that parking is chargeable only between
09:00 - 17:30.

Came back to find a parking ticket, time-stamped at 17:36.

Clearly the parking attendant was trying it on, aware that a certain
percentage probably just pay up. But I want to make a stand and sue the
council for wasting my time. Would I be reasonable in charging a £50 admin
charge for having to issue an explanatory note..?

Cheers

Carlos,

Yes do take any legal action if you feel wronged by the Council, do it
through a legal representative who will ensure that you're
out-of-pocket-expenses are recovered and that any action you are
threatened with by the local authority is rescinded.

After all why should you pay for their inadequacies?

There are far too many local authorities and councils deliberately
taking the **** from motorists and see them as a prime target to raise
additional revenue, by attempting to get motorists (and others) to pay
fines, levy's and frivolous charges just to swell their funds.

Stand by your guns, if you're right then you're in the right, but
don't give way to threats and the possibility of legal action, if the
council choose to sue you over £1 or 5 minutes let them go ahead and
waste even more of their ratepayers money and funds.