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It may have been disappointing, but it certainly still exists! And I'm
not sure how disappointing passenger traffic is, since they run the
shuttle service every 20 minutes or thereabouts, and 4 passenger tph
through the tunnel - which surely they wouldn't do by now if passenger
levels didn't warrant it?


I see that Eurotunnel are reducing the number of lorry shuttles
considerably, as the increased charges are driving many operators back to
the ferries.
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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It may have been disappointing, but it certainly still exists! And I'm
not sure how disappointing passenger traffic is, since they run the
shuttle service every 20 minutes or thereabouts, and 4 passenger tph
through the tunnel - which surely they wouldn't do by now if passenger
levels didn't warrant it?


I see that Eurotunnel are reducing the number of lorry shuttles
considerably, as the increased charges are driving many operators back to
the ferries.



In other words, Eurotunnel aren't making enough money out of it. Who would
have thought that ferries could beat a tunnel on price and speed?

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Michael Bell wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Dec 2004:

In other words, Eurotunnel aren't making enough money out of it. Who would
have thought that ferries could beat a tunnel on price and speed?

I have a feeling the lorry drivers prefer ferries as they can get a
decent break, a meal and perhaps a nap before driving what might be a
very long distance indeed on the other side.
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Michael Bell wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Dec 2004:

In other words, Eurotunnel aren't making enough money out of it. Who would
have thought that ferries could beat a tunnel on price and speed?

I have a feeling the lorry drivers prefer ferries as they can get a
decent break, a meal and perhaps a nap before driving what might be a
very long distance indeed on the other side.


And it's exactly the same for coach drivers. (Not that they have much
influence over the mode of cross-channel transport chosen by a tour
operator, of course. But they do prefer the ferry; and so do I.)
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 15:17:09 +0000, Ian Jelf
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And it's exactly the same for coach drivers. (Not that they have much
influence over the mode of cross-channel transport chosen by a tour
operator, of course. But they do prefer the ferry; and so do I.)


As do I, if I'm travelling with a car. A break from driving (or being
a passenger in one of Charlie's favourite little boxes ) for some
fresh sea air and/or a relaxing cup of coffee. The new Seafrance ship
is especially good as the coffee bar has a view out of the front and
comfortable seating in the right place to enjoy it.

If I'm doing a long train journey I choose Eurostar for the speed and
convenience, mind.

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Michael Bell wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Dec 2004:

In other words, Eurotunnel aren't making enough money out of it. Who would
have thought that ferries could beat a tunnel on price and speed?

I have a feeling the lorry drivers prefer ferries as they can get a
decent break, a meal and perhaps a nap before driving what might be a
very long distance indeed on the other side.


And it's exactly the same for coach drivers. (Not that they have much
influence over the mode of cross-channel transport chosen by a tour
operator, of course. But they do prefer the ferry; and so do I.)


Yes, I've got to admit that's a factor I hadn't thought of.

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Terry Harper wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Dec 2004:

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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It may have been disappointing, but it certainly still exists! And I'm
not sure how disappointing passenger traffic is, since they run the
shuttle service every 20 minutes or thereabouts, and 4 passenger tph
through the tunnel - which surely they wouldn't do by now if passenger
levels didn't warrant it?


I see that Eurotunnel are reducing the number of lorry shuttles
considerably, as the increased charges are driving many operators back to
the ferries.


Still a huge queue of lorries last time we went over a few weeks ago!
But then, if they've cut back on lorry-trains, perhaps that's
inevitable.
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"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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Terry Harper wrote to uk.transport.london on Sun, 19 Dec 2004:

"Mrs Redboots" wrote in message
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It may have been disappointing, but it certainly still exists! And I'm
not sure how disappointing passenger traffic is, since they run the
shuttle service every 20 minutes or thereabouts, and 4 passenger tph
through the tunnel - which surely they wouldn't do by now if passenger
levels didn't warrant it?


I see that Eurotunnel are reducing the number of lorry shuttles
considerably, as the increased charges are driving many operators back to
the ferries.


Still a huge queue of lorries last time we went over a few weeks ago!
But then, if they've cut back on lorry-trains, perhaps that's
inevitable.
--
"Mrs Redboots"
http://www.amsmyth.demon.co.uk/
Website updated 18 December 2004


No cut-back yet, Annabel. The loadings always seem pretty good, apart from
certain predictable periods- I had to sit in the loco cab one day last week
when coming off shift, as there weren't any seats available in the club-car.
Brian
(who'll be interested to see how busy it'll be on Christmas afternoon, when
he's next on shift..)


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