"Boltar" wrote in message
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Michael Bell wrote:
In article .com,
Boltar
wrote:
Safety & Practicality:

Moving belts/chains have been dumped as impractical
even on reserved rights of way railways, using them in
a street setting is an absurd idea.

They obviously have to be grade-separated.

So there would be ugly elevated concrete
guideways everywhere. Yuck, even worse.

Actually, a grade separated travelator route from Waterloo Station to Euston
Station could be achieved with merely 5 short subways, and the appropriation
of the Kingsway Tram Subway. Some roads would have to be narrowed, but the
tram scheme also requires that. I can't comment on how this would affect
access to properties, though.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes

In article , John Rowland
wrote:
"Boltar" wrote in message
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Michael Bell wrote:
In article .com,
Boltar
wrote:
Safety & Practicality:

Moving belts/chains have been dumped as impractical
even on reserved rights of way railways, using them in
a street setting is an absurd idea.

They obviously have to be grade-separated.

So there would be ugly elevated concrete
guideways everywhere. Yuck, even worse.

Actually, a grade separated travelator route from Waterloo Station to
Euston Station could be achieved with merely 5 short subways, and the
appropriation of the Kingsway Tram Subway. Some roads would have to be
narrowed, but the tram scheme also requires that. I can't comment on how
this would affect access to properties, though.

Thank you for that!

Michael Bell.
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"John Rowland" wrote in message
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Actually, a grade separated travelator route from Waterloo Station to
Euston
Station could be achieved with merely 5 short subways, and the
appropriation
of the Kingsway Tram Subway. Some roads would have to be narrowed, but the
tram scheme also requires that. I can't comment on how this would affect
access to properties, though.

Look up, not down!

You could route it above the pavements with bridges across the road
junctions, and across the river. Escalators up to travelator level.
--
Terry Harper, Web Co-ordinator, The Omnibus Society
75th Anniversary 2004, see http://www.omnibussoc.org/75th.htm
E-mail:
URL: http://www.terry.harper.btinternet.co.uk/

In article . com, Boltar
wrote:

Michael Bell wrote:
In article .com,
Boltar
wrote:
Safety & Practicality: How do you propose a constantly moving belt
crosses major intersections when it has hundreds or thousands of people
are in the vehicles on it any any one time? Stop the whole belt on a
red? Stop bits of bit? Disconnect the vehicle and risk the next one
hitting it unless you have some complex control system? I can just see
the HSE really going for this one.

Moving belts/chains have been dumped as impractical even on reserved
rights of way railways, using them in a street setting is an absurd
idea.

B2003

They obviously have to be grade-separated.

So there would be ugly elevated concrete guideways everywhere. Yuck,
even
worse.

B2003

There certainly are problems in that direction, but problems are not
necessarily insoluble problems. There would be no problem in running such a
way across the concourse of big stations, they already have foot walkways
over some! Likewise, there would be little problem adding them to the side of
bridges - the weight is trivial. In many kinds of modern developments,
they could be fitted in. Streets are a problem, the two main possibilities
are to build them into the buildings at basement level or at 1st floor level.
The objections should not be too serious - building owners want people to be
brought to their buildings!

Michael Bell

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"Michael Bell" wrote in message
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There certainly are problems in that direction, but
problems are not necessarily insoluble problems.
There would be no problem in running such a way
across the concourse of big stations, they already
have foot walkways over some! Likewise, there
would be little problem adding them to the side of
bridges - the weight is trivial. In many kinds of
modern developments, they could be fitted in.
Streets are a problem, the two main possibilities
are to build them into the buildings at basement
level or at 1st floor level. The objections should
not be too serious - building owners want people
to be brought to their buildings!

But they don't want people carrying bombs brought through their basements.

--
John Rowland - Spamtrapped
Transport Plans for the London Area, updated 2001
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acro...69/tpftla.html
A man's vehicle is a symbol of his manhood.
That's why my vehicle's the Piccadilly Line -
It's the size of a county and it comes every two and a half minutes