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Adrian Auer-Hudson wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:



Do expand on that.

The king of Chiltern's rural stations. I've never seen anyone get on


or

off there - not even with any golf clubs. I reckon most people
travelling to Denham Golf Club do so by BMW rather than Chiltern


Turbo

(although the latter has more plentiful room for one's clubs).

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It is eleven years since I last travelled the GC/GW joint. Is the
Pagoda still at Denham Golf Club?

A.


Yup. I don't think anything's really changed at Denham Golf Club in the
last 100-ish years.


Not so!

The up platform used to be nearer to London than the down platform. About 40
years ago a new up platform was built opposite the down platform. That's why
there are three pagodas, not two. Some very important people have used it.
In fact you could have seen me get on and off there, but I have never played
a round of golf. However I regularly trespassed on the golf course, using it
as a short cut to the station. I am pleased that you recognise the
significance of this distinguished station.

Regards,
David Fairthorne


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David Fairthorne wrote:
"Dave Arquati" wrote in message
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Adrian Auer-Hudson wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:

Do expand on that.

The king of Chiltern's rural stations. I've never seen anyone get on
or off there - not even with any golf clubs. I reckon most people
travelling to Denham Golf Club do so by BMW rather than Chiltern
Turbo (although the latter has more plentiful room for one's clubs).

It is eleven years since I last travelled the GC/GW joint. Is the
Pagoda still at Denham Golf Club?


Yup. I don't think anything's really changed at Denham Golf Club in the
last 100-ish years.


Not so!

The up platform used to be nearer to London than the down platform. About 40
years ago a new up platform was built opposite the down platform. That's why
there are three pagodas, not two. Some very important people have used it.
In fact you could have seen me get on and off there, but I have never played
a round of golf. However I regularly trespassed on the golf course, using it
as a short cut to the station. I am pleased that you recognise the
significance of this distinguished station.


Many apologies :-)


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Tom Anderson wrote:
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:

One might think that a journey from the outskirts of London into the
centre would be quickest via a fast National Rail operator,
^^^^^^

I made a journey from High Wycombe into Kensington last week.
^^^^^^^^^^

Dave, are we going to have to go over this again?


Oh dear, not this old chestnut... you'll just have to accept that Dave's
definition of Central London is Zone 1 :-)

I'm having flashbacks to the whole "Metropolitan Kent" argument.


I think we did Essex a bit before that.


I'm afraid for simplicity's sake, on my website, places are either
Central, North, East, Southeast, Southwest, West or Northwest, and if
they're not any of those, they're Outside. For my sanity, Outside means
outside the GLA boundary.

Still, correct definitions are important, and, moreover, this group
collects argumentative pedants like uk.local.london collects raving
lunatics.


I think uk.railway is worse (for pedants).

(including a stop at the fantastic Denham Golf Club).

Do expand on that.


The king of Chiltern's rural stations. I've never seen anyone get on or
off there - not even with any golf clubs. I reckon most people
travelling to Denham Golf Club do so by BMW rather than Chiltern Turbo
(although the latter has more plentiful room for one's clubs).


Why on earth does this station exist? Why does it *still* exist?


To be fair, it probably sees more use than Kempston Hardwick.

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Dave Arquati wrote:
Tom Anderson wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:
(including a stop at the fantastic Denham Golf Club).


Do expand on that.


The king of Chiltern's rural stations. I've never seen anyone get on

or
off there - not even with any golf clubs. I reckon most people
travelling to Denham Golf Club do so by BMW rather than Chiltern

Turbo
(although the latter has more plentiful room for one's clubs).


I got off and on there back in summer 2000 when I 'bashed' all rail
routes out to the M25!



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Dr. Sunil wrote:
Dave Arquati wrote:

Tom Anderson wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Dave Arquati wrote:

(including a stop at the fantastic Denham Golf Club).

Do expand on that.


The king of Chiltern's rural stations. I've never seen anyone get on


or

off there - not even with any golf clubs. I reckon most people
travelling to Denham Golf Club do so by BMW rather than Chiltern


Turbo

(although the latter has more plentiful room for one's clubs).



I got off and on there back in summer 2000 when I 'bashed' all rail
routes out to the M25!


I'm not sure if that really counts... if it wasn't there, you would have
just got off at Gerrards Cross instead :-)

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Tom Anderson wrote:

Why on earth does this station exist? Why does it *still* exist?


I suspect because the cost of all the procedure required to close it
would be greater than the cost of keepiiing it open. You don't save
much by closiing the odd unstaffed halt. The trains that Chiltern are
most concerned about the timing of, the Birmingham ones, don't stop
there.

What would make consderable savings would be to close lines; no need
for train crews, station or PW staff, no need for trains, or
maintainiing them, or fuel for them, track can be re-used elsewhere or
sold, land can be sold off etc. It is highly unlikely today that this
line would be proposed for closure, so major savings cannot be made.

Denham Golf Club station does very little good, but it also does little
harm, so it just stays as it is. If at some time it required major
expenditure to keep it open, then I suspect that it would close. To be
honest, it would be difficult to make a serious case against such
closure.

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