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oups.com... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4251793.stm Still not sure it's of much use to me. I travel a few times a week from Zone 3 into central London, an occasional bus ride, and a few Southern trains between Balham, Victoria, Croydon etc., on which I understand you can't use Oyster. Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones 1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as well carry on buying paper tickets? Ian |
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Ian F. wrote: wrote in message oups.com... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4251793.stm Still not sure it's of much use to me. I travel a few times a week from Zone 3 into central London, an occasional bus ride, and a few Southern trains between Balham, Victoria, Croydon etc., on which I understand you can't use Oyster. Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones 1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as well carry on buying paper tickets? Ian A one-day Travelcard cannot be loaded on an Oyster. |
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oups.com... A one-day Travelcard cannot be loaded on an Oyster. Well, as they say in Spain, hacienda that then! Ian |
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Still not sure it's of much use to me. I travel a few times a week from
Zone 3 into central London, an occasional bus ride, and a few Southern trains between Balham, Victoria, Croydon etc., on which I understand you can't use Oyster. I find it is worthwhile just for the convenience of not having to use the ticket machines for the trams or for buses where you need a ticket for boarding, or having to mess around paying the driver. Saving a few bob in doing so is a bonus. Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones 1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as well carry on buying paper tickets? You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket. G. |
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... You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket. In that case, I'll continue to buy a paper ticket until things change, or Oyster becomes available on (all) National Rail. Ian |
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"Graham J" wrote in
: Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones 1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as well carry on buying paper tickets? You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket. G. Is this one of the things that will change on Feb 27th? Or does capping limit pre-pay deductions to the cost of a travelcard but not actually create a travelcard (and thus not valid on national rail unless you could use pre-pay for the journey you are making)? I hope the lack of information on offical tfl sites does not mean the details are still being worked out... David |
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Jackman writes You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket. Is this one of the things that will change on Feb 27th? Or does capping limit pre-pay deductions to the cost of a travelcard but not actually create a travelcard Surely 'capping' means what it says - capping (restricting) the cost. If the announcement meant that you could go further and put a full-blown one-day travelcard onto an Oyster, it would surely have said so - and would have been much more dramatic as a result! -- Paul Terry |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:08:32 +0000, Paul Terry
wrote: If the announcement meant that you could go further and put a full-blown one-day travelcard onto an Oyster, it would surely have said so - and would have been much more dramatic as a result! ....and so much more useful! Why *can't* you load a ODTC onto oyster? Surely its not technically difficult? |
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On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:48:09 +0000 (UTC), David Jackman
wrote: "Graham J" wrote in : Would there be any point in loading a one day Travelcard (say zones 1-4) onto an Oyster card on a day when I need it, or might I just as well carry on buying paper tickets? You can't actually load a one day travelcard onto an Oyster. Although I'd find it useful myself I can see why they never bothered with it as it is just as easy to hand you a paper ticket. Is this one of the things that will change on Feb 27th? Or does capping limit pre-pay deductions to the cost of a travelcard but not actually create a travelcard (and thus not valid on national rail unless you could use pre-pay for the journey you are making)? Having seen some of the training materials today and looked through the wide range of examples of how it will work your statement is broadly correct. As many NR stations do not have pre-pay validity then it is pretty pointless to opt for capping to One Day ticket prices when the card cannot record your trips. People needing to use NR services are a specific exception to the "best value" facility for capping and the training literature advises the continued use of One Day Travelcards for such customers. It is stated in the TfL Board agenda papers for 9/2/05 that the DfT have decreed that TfL zonal fares will apply to all NR journeys within the zonal area by 2007. Implementation will be on a TOC by TOC basis between now and 2007. Pre-pay will be part of the roll out of this policy. I hope the lack of information on offical tfl sites does not mean the details are still being worked out... I think you can rest assured that a hell of a lot of detail has been worked out. The simple basis is that trip data is used to determine what modes, times and zones people travel in. The caps are then set at the appropriate one day ticket. If you exclusively use buses and tramlink then you will be capped to the One Day Bus Pass price. If you travel across LUL, buses and trams during off peak times then you will be capped to the equivalent off peak one day travelcard for the zones travelled through. When trips are a combination of peak and off peak bands then it gets more complicated as the cap can be the lower of the appropriate day travelcard *or* the summation of say a peak Tube fare (e.g. Z6-Z!) for your first trip and then if all your subsequent trips were in Z12 then the Z12 day travelcard price. I have to say that looking at the more complex examples used in the training material that I now understand why it has taken time to get the system knocked into some sort of shape to provide the cheapest trips given the complex range of combinations. I'll also happily confess that I don't fully understand all of the examples but I haven't had time to really study them. I'm not qualified to go on the training course but I'd secretly like to go on it to fully understand what goes on. Still they are asking for us office people to volunteer to help with the launch and provide advice at stations so perhaps I'll get to have a basic briefing, don my hi-vi and freeze to death in a windy ticket hall :-) -- Paul C Admits to working for London Underground! |
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