Train Fire at Victoria
 

A guy just walked into the office and said that the front coach of his
train went up in flames after it had arrived at Victoria this morning.
He descibed it as one of the old trains. I didn't realise that slam
door stock still worked from Kent. Just as well it happened whilst
stopped in the station.

Kevin

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Train Fire at Victoria
 

In fact it exploded. The bang startled every pigeon in Victoria off its
perch. This wasn't just litter catching fire.

Kevin

Train Fire at Victoria
 

wrote in message
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In fact it exploded. The bang startled every pigeon in Victoria off its
perch. This wasn't just litter catching fire.


Nevertheless, did the vehicle catch fire, did staff start dashing about with
fire extinguishers, was the traction current turned off, did the Fire
Brigade attend?

If the answer to any of these questions is "No", then the vehicle concerned
did not "go up in smike" and you are being unnecessarily alarmist.

(You're not an Evening Standard journalist are you?)

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snip

Ouch. Explosions from electric stock are probably not a Good Thing...

Did he say what colour it was?

Train Fire at Victoria
 

"TheOneKEA" wrote in message
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snip

Ouch. Explosions from electric stock are probably not a Good Thing...

Did he say what colour it was?


Flames are usually in the yellow-orange-red part of the spectrum. ;-)

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Don't have a f**king go at me. At 8.10 this morning a co worker
announced that the front coach of his train went up in flames at
Victoria. The office is at Vauxhall so I guess that this happened
between 7.45 and 7.55. And you are saying why didn't any news
organisation pick it up. It had happened in the previous 15 minutes.
You can't report any rail related incident now for fear of setting the
train spotters off on one.
Was the traction current switched off, how the f**k should I know.
Unnecessarly alarmist for reporting a train catching fire.
When did the nazis take control of this country.

Kevin

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Brimstone wrote:

Flames are usually in the yellow-orange-red part of the spectrum.
;-)

Certainly ;-)

I was just curious as to what livery the suspect train was in. If it
does turn out that the unit has slagged itself in some way, losing one
of the heritage units (like the 4-VEP 3417) would be pretty bad.

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wrote in message
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Don't have a f**king go at me. At 8.10 this morning a co worker
announced that the front coach of his train went up in flames at
Victoria. The office is at Vauxhall so I guess that this happened
between 7.45 and 7.55. And you are saying why didn't any news
organisation pick it up. It had happened in the previous 15 minutes.
You can't report any rail related incident now for fear of setting the
train spotters off on one.
Was the traction current switched off, how the f**k should I know.
Unnecessarly alarmist for reporting a train catching fire.
When did the nazis take control of this country.


Hmm, by the looks of you must be an Evening Standard journalist, they have a
sense of humour deficiency as well.

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Train Fire at Victoria
 

Richard J. wrote:
wrote:
Don't have a f**king go at me.

If you feel that the phrases "Don't you feel that ..." and "I
suggest"
have that interpretation, then I think you're a tad over-sensitive.

At 8.10 this morning a co worker announced that the front coach
of his train went up in flames at Victoria. The office is at
Vauxhall so I guess that this happened between 7.45 and 7.55.
And you are saying why didn't any news organisation pick it up.
It had happened in the previous 15 minutes.

I'm saying that at 14:58 (the time of my previous post in this
thread),
nearly 7 hours later, there was no sign of any news report on the BBC
or
Evening Standard web sites, or Google news, nor was there any sign of
service disruption earlier today on the National Rail site, which
would
have occurred with a major explosion/fire incident.

You can't report any rail related incident now for fear of setting
the train spotters off on one.

If you post on utl, don't complain if people want to know more, or if
your "incident" appears to have been grossly exaggerated.

Have you asked your colleague what really happened yet?

--
Richard J.
(to e-mail me, swap uk and yon in address)

Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he is
a liar. Why do you who wasn't there presume to know more than my
co-worker who had just got off the train.

Train Fire at Victoria
 

In message .com,
writes

Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he is
a liar. Why do you who wasn't there presume to know more than my
co-worker who had just got off the train.

A train going up in flames in Victoria Station at the height of the rush
hour would, at the very least, have caused the station to close and the
public to be evacuated, resulting in severe disruption to travel.

Since it is clear that there was no disruption to train services at the
time claimed, the conclusion is obvious to everyone reading this thread.

Are you sure it wasn't just your colleague's pants that were on fire?

--
Paul Terry

Train Fire at Victoria
 

In article .com,
wrote:
Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he is
a liar.

I don't think he is a liar; I do think he was wrong.

--
Mike Bristow - really a very good driver

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Mike Bristow wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he
is a liar.

I don't think he is a liar; I do think he was wrong.

At least guilty of gross exaggeration.

Train Fire at Victoria
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he is
a liar. Why do you who wasn't there presume to know more than my
co-worker who had just got off the train.

Because many people on this group have access to far more detailed
information about the operational railway. For example, several posters work
on the national network and have access to internal systems or direct
contacts with major station managers, employees and/or depot staff in the
areas concerned and have reported no incident of this nature.

There may well have been a small fire, possibly caused by combustible
rubbish discarded by idle passengers who couldn't be bothered to use the
litter bins provided on the trains or elsewhere or to take their litter away
with them . To imply that there was a major conflagration is nonsense, the
internal reporting requirements of such an event, together with systems for
delay attribution etc. would be require an incident of that magnitude to be
highlighted. Traction current in the affected area would require to be
isolated (which would be reported) whilst an investigation took place. The
fact that there is no trace of this event does not imply that nothing
occurred, merely that the seriousness of it was grossly exaggerated.

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Could this possibly be a simple case of some idiot chucking a banger down by
the buffers?

Result would be a big bang echoing around the station, little or no damage
and nothing for the papers to report.

A slightly vivid imagination could easily turn that into an exploding train.

Train Fire at Victoria
 

In message , Brimstone
writes
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on Usenet
then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you think he
is a liar.

I don't think he is a liar; I do think he was wrong.

At least guilty of gross exaggeration.

He's been warned a million times about that, too......

(Sorry. I thought the thread needed lightening a bit!)
--
Ian Jelf, MITG
Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
http://www.bluebadge.demon.co.uk

Train Fire at Victoria
 

Ian Jelf wrote:
In message , Brimstone
writes
Mike Bristow wrote:
In article .com,
wrote:
Well if it wasn't in the Evening Standard or on the BBC or on
Usenet then it didn't happen. I will inform my co-worker that you
think he is a liar.

I don't think he is a liar; I do think he was wrong.

At least guilty of gross exaggeration.

He's been warned a million times about that, too......

(Sorry. I thought the thread needed lightening a bit!)

(Apart from the OP was anyone taking it seriously?)

Train Fire at Victoria
 

On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:38:49 -0000, Vernon wrote:

Could this possibly be a simple case of some idiot chucking a banger down by
the buffers?

Result would be a big bang echoing around the station, little or no damage
and nothing for the papers to report.

A slightly vivid imagination could easily turn that into an exploding train.

Let's hope that there's no-one around with a real gift for invention,
then ;-)

--
http://gallery120232.fotopic.net/p9925977.html
(319 381 descending the 1 in 27 leaving London Blackfriars in 2004)

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In message , Paul Terry
writes
A train going up in flames in Victoria Station at the height of the
rush hour would, at the very least, have caused the station to close
and the public to be evacuated, resulting in severe disruption to travel.

Since it is clear that there was no disruption to train services at the
time claimed, the conclusion is obvious to everyone reading this thread.

Are you sure it wasn't just your colleague's pants that were on fire?
Personal experience tells me that a traction motor flashover gives of a
terrifying smell with some smoke, but once the power is of it cools down
and apart from the motor no damage is done.
--
Clive.