A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

I have an Annual Bus Pass which is due to expire soon, with a small
amount of PrePay for my casual Underground use. I also had an Incomplete
Journey, which 4 trips to Underground ticket offices failed to resolve,
so I had my Oyster Card replaced as 'Failed' yesterday.

There is also an intriguing problem with the PrePay on both the old and
the new cards:-

I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!

I rang the Oyster Helpline last week and they said I *was* being
charged. A printout confirmed I had made some journeys for which I was
charged SFP. The same happened last night with the new card.

I'm getting disinclined to schlep out to Edgware to sort this out.
(Burnt Oak is seldom staffed, it's wet and cold out and I'm disabled...)

My Underground use is trivial and I'm quite willing to pay fares for
trips I make BUT

I am concerned there might be some kind of 'virus' in Oyster software,
which is depriving TfL of money. It is too much of a coincidence to have
this occur with two cards, the second of which was 'loaded' from the
first.

I had over 10 months' trouble-free use of the initial Oyster Card.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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The message
from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

I rang the Oyster Helpline

It's a good job you're not orthodox, Helen.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!

And the problem is??? You can send me the card if you like.

I am concerned there might be some kind of 'virus' in Oyster
software,

Hardly. Just bug ridden software more like, either on the card , the
readers, the servers or a combination of the above.

B2003

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I have an Annual Bus Pass which is due to expire soon, with a small
amount of PrePay for my casual Underground use. I also had an Incomplete
Journey, which 4 trips to Underground ticket offices failed to resolve,
so I had my Oyster Card replaced as 'Failed' yesterday.

There is also an intriguing problem with the PrePay on both the old and
the new cards:-

I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!

I rang the Oyster Helpline last week and they said I *was* being
charged. A printout confirmed I had made some journeys for which I was
charged SFP. The same happened last night with the new card.

I'm getting disinclined to schlep out to Edgware to sort this out.
(Burnt Oak is seldom staffed, it's wet and cold out and I'm disabled...)

My Underground use is trivial and I'm quite willing to pay fares for
trips I make BUT

I am concerned there might be some kind of 'virus' in Oyster software,
which is depriving TfL of money. It is too much of a coincidence to have
this occur with two cards, the second of which was 'loaded' from the
first.

I had over 10 months' trouble-free use of the initial Oyster Card.

It sounds like the problem you describe has merely been transferred to
your new Oyster.

When you renew your Annual Bus Pass, why not suggest that they create a
completely new account for you.

Sorry for being thick but by SFP, do you mean that you've been charged
paper-ticket rate instead of the lower Oyster rate?
It may be a problem with the zero entry level which has only recently
been introduced if you're making more than eight bus journeys between
tube journeys so the tube journey info is getting lost. (Just a thought)
--
Kat

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

Kat typed


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I have an Annual Bus Pass which is due to expire soon, with a small
amount of PrePay for my casual Underground use. I also had an Incomplete
Journey, which 4 trips to Underground ticket offices failed to resolve,
so I had my Oyster Card replaced as 'Failed' yesterday.

There is also an intriguing problem with the PrePay on both the old and
the new cards:-

I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!


When you renew your Annual Bus Pass, why not suggest that they create a
completely new account for you.

Sorry for being thick but by SFP, do you mean that you've been charged
paper-ticket rate instead of the lower Oyster rate?

SFP is the Sheddies' Favourite Price ie NOTHING (an in joke with
uk.rec.sheds) I did specify £0.00 to clarify!

It may be a problem with the zero entry level which has only recently
been introduced if you're making more than eight bus journeys between
tube journeys so the tube journey info is getting lost. (Just a thought)

I might well be doing more than eight bus journeys - that's why I have a
Bus Pass! Yesterday, the new card only had two or three bus journeys on
it and the Underground journeys were consecutive but itemised at £0.00.

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty. It won't when I get my
Freedom Pass, which I hope will be soon.

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

The message
from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

SFP is the Sheddies' Favourite Price ie NOTHING (an in joke with
uk.rec.sheds) I did specify £0.00 to clarify!

Not true! Sheddie's Favourite Price is when they pay you to take it
away. Free is S2°FP.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

On 24 Feb 2005 06:12:08 -0800, "Boltar"
wrote:


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!

And the problem is??? You can send me the card if you like.

I am concerned there might be some kind of 'virus' in Oyster
software,

Hardly. Just bug ridden software more like, either on the card , the
readers, the servers or a combination of the above.


As I recall, said system (I use the term loosely) is run by our old
Texan friends, Everything Done Sloppily.

'nuff said.

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:05 +0000, Sn!pe
wrote in :
Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty.

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

#No, no, he's outside, looking in...

--
Ivan Reid, Electronic & Computer Engineering, ___ CMS Collaboration,
Brunel University. Room 40-1-B12, CERN
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

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The message
from "Dr Ivan D. Reid" contains these words:

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

#No, no, he's outside, looking in...

I wish he'd shut those perceptual doors - it's draughty in here.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

"Ancipital" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:05 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty.

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

Oh dear, for some reason, I now have "Julian Cope is dead" by Bill
Drummond stuck in my head..

Now I've got "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by someone (The Cure?) going round and
round.


--
Malc

9th level Smellcaster

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Malc wrote:


"Ancipital" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:05 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty.

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

Oh dear, for some reason, I now have "Julian Cope is dead" by Bill
Drummond stuck in my head..

Now I've got "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by someone (The Cure?) going round and
round.

Now *i*'ve got 'Ed Is Dead', by the Pixies.

Oh, and Drummond lyrics in my randomly-selected sig!

tom

--
.... and the children still cry "Make mine a 99"

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It was a dark and stormy night when Malc malunspamwhhite@lightindigoove
rthere.co.uk wrote in article
er.co.uk...

"Ancipital" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:05 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty.

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

Oh dear, for some reason, I now have "Julian Cope is dead" by Bill
Drummond stuck in my head..

Now I've got "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by someone (The Cure?) going round and
round.


Bauhaus, bless their pointy goth boots.

Grebbsy
--
"All vampires suck, but not all who suck are vampires."
(--B.J.Kuehl)

:::Grebbsy :::::::lemon curry?:::

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

On or around Thu, 24 Feb 2005 21:13:15 GMT, "Malc"
enlightened us thusly:


"Ancipital" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:33:05 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

Tripping around for free makes me feel guilty.

Timothy Leary's dead, HTH.

Oh dear, for some reason, I now have "Julian Cope is dead" by Bill
Drummond stuck in my head..

Now I've got "Bela Lugosi's Dead" by someone (The Cure?) going round and
round.

If we're doing dead music, hunt Rachmaninov's "The Isle of the Dead", 's
good stuff. Yet to find an empy-free of it, buggrit.


--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
"You praise the firm restraint with which they write -_
I'm with you there, of course: They use the snaffle and the bit
alright, but where's the bloody horse? - Roy Campbell (1902-1957)

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

Grebbsy McLaren wrote:

Bauhaus, bless their pointy goth boots.

(sings)

Daddy wouldn't buy me a Bauhaus...

(dies)

--

Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/
World Domination?
Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the
floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine)

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
Kat typed


Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:
I have an Annual Bus Pass which is due to expire soon, with a small
amount of PrePay for my casual Underground use. I also had an Incomplete
Journey, which 4 trips to Underground ticket offices failed to resolve,
so I had my Oyster Card replaced as 'Failed' yesterday.

There is also an intriguing problem with the PrePay on both the old and
the new cards:-

I am being charged SFP (£0.00) for my Underground trips!


When you renew your Annual Bus Pass, why not suggest that they create a
completely new account for you.

Sorry for being thick but by SFP, do you mean that you've been charged
paper-ticket rate instead of the lower Oyster rate?

SFP is the Sheddies' Favourite Price ie NOTHING (an in joke with
uk.rec.sheds) I did specify £0.00 to clarify!

I can't see what your original post has to do with sheds. It appears
that nothing helpful has emanated from the cross-post either.
(£0.00) appears on the POD when a TC on Oyster has expired but the
system allows you to travel on zero pre-pay for one journey.

FUs set
--
Kat

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

Kat typed


I can't see what your original post has to do with sheds.

uk.rec.sheds is a somewhat eclectic group of individuals with whom I
post and socialise. Its denizens claim to be averse to spending money.

It appears
that nothing helpful has emanated from the cross-post either.

Matter of opinion, really. This thread has become rather more humourous
and lengthy in the Shed.

(£0.00) appears on the POD when a TC on Oyster has expired but the
system allows you to travel on zero pre-pay for one journey.

I have never had a TC as such on this Oyster Card. As stated, I have an
Annual Bus Pass which is still in date but will expire soon.

FUs set
Meanwhile, back in the Shed...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:46:44 +0000, Kat
wrote:

Sorry for being thick but by SFP, do you mean that you've been charged
paper-ticket rate instead of the lower Oyster rate?

Sheddi's
Favourite
Price

Means they've given her free trips. I'd personally just tell them,
perhaps by post, once every few munfs. If they CBA to charge you, I don't
think you CBA to bend over backwards to make them correct their
inadvertent generosity.

--
Lane Gray
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Gen
2:25
remove the .lead from my address

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On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:45:28 GMT, Guy King wrote:

The message
from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

SFP is the Sheddies' Favourite Price ie NOTHING (an in joke with
uk.rec.sheds) I did specify £0.00 to clarify!

Not true! Sheddie's Favourite Price is when they pay you to take it
away. Free is S2°FP.

And how often does that happen to *you*?


--
Lane Gray
And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Gen
2:25
remove the .lead from my address

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

The message
from "Lane Gray, Czar Castic" contains these words:

Not true! Sheddie's Favourite Price is when they pay you to take it
away. Free is S2°FP.

And how often does that happen to *you*?

Hardly ever - but it's nice when it does.

--
Skipweasel.
In the beginning was the word.
And the word was Aardvark.

A Little Trouble with my Oyster...
 

On or around Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:21:37 GMT, "Lane Gray, Czar Castic"
enlightened us thusly:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:46:44 +0000, Kat
wrote:

Sorry for being thick but by SFP, do you mean that you've been charged
paper-ticket rate instead of the lower Oyster rate?

Sheddi's
Favourite
Price

remarkably similar to SFA, but applied specifically to zbarl, when acquiring
something.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
Travel The Galaxy! Meet Fascinating Life Forms...
------------------------------------------------\
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/ \ ...and Kill them.
a webcartoon by Howard Tayler; I like it, maybe you will too!

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On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 09:27:00 -0600, Lane Gray, Czar Castic wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:45:28 GMT, Guy King wrote:

The message
from Helen Deborah Vecht contains these words:

SFP is the Sheddies' Favourite Price ie NOTHING (an in joke with
uk.rec.sheds) I did specify £0.00 to clarify!

Not true! Sheddie's Favourite Price is when they pay you to take it
away. Free is S2°FP.

And how often does that happen to *you*?

All the time, I'm a dustman[7]



[7] not really.
--
Justin C, by the sea.