This is a rewrite of the rules for using Oyster Prepay on National
Rail within the TfL area to show where it can't be used:

Chiltern Railways
---------------------
At Wembley Stadium, Sudbury & Harrow Road, Sudbury Hill Harrow and
Northolt Park.

Between South Ruislip and London Paddington

C2C
-----
Between Barking and Rainham.

First Great Western
------------------------
At London Paddington (Does not stop in the TfL area)

First Great Western Link
------------------------------
Between London Paddington and Greenford or West Drayton.

Gatwick Express
-------------------
At London Victoria (Does not stop in the TfL area)

GNER
-------
At London Kings Cross (Does not stop in the TfL area)

Heathrow Express
---------------------
Between London Paddington and Heathrow Central.

Midland Main Line
----------------------
At London St. Pancras. (Does not stop in the TfL area)

'one' Railway
---------------
At Bethnal Green, Cambridge Heath, London Fields, Hackney Downs,
Rectory Road, Stoke Newington, Stamford Hill, Clapton and Walthamstow
St James Street.

Between Seven Sisters and Enfield Town or Turkey Street.

Between Tottenham Hale and Enfield Lock.

Between Stratford and Upminster or Harold Wood

Scotrail
--------
At London Euston. (Does not stop in the TfL area)

Silverlink
-----------
At South Hampstead and Kilburn High Road.

Between Harrow & Wealdstone and Hatch End.

Between Gunnersbury and Stratford.

Between Canning Town and North Woolwich.

Between Gospel Oak and Barking.

Between Clapham Junction and Willesden Junction.

Southern
----------
Between Wembley Central or Victoria or Charing Cross and Cheam,
Belmont, Woodmansterne, Coulsdon South, Kenley, Riddlesdown or
Beckenham Junction.

South Eastern Trains
-------------------------
Between Victoria, Charing Cross, Elephant and Castle, or Cannon Street
and Coulsdon South, Hayes, Bromley North, Knockholt, St. Mary Cray,
Crayford, Barnehurst or Slade Green.

South West Trains
-----------------------
Between Waterloo and Feltham, Hampton, Hampton Court, Surbiton,
Chessington South or Stoneleigh.

Thameslink
-------------
Between Elstree & Borehamwood and Kentish Town.

Between Elephant & Castle and Sutton

Between London Bridge & East Croydon

WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Virgin Trains
---------------
Between Kensington Olympia and East Croydon.

At London Euston (Does not stop in the TfL area).

Matthew Dickinson wrote:

First Great Western Link
------------------------------
Between London Paddington and Greenford or West Drayton.

Shouldn't that be 'stations past Greenford or West Drayton'?

Otherwise isn't it saying it's not valid at all?

In message , Matthew
Dickinson writes

WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not? There are plenty of stops within TfL between Finsbury Park and
Hadley Wood. Hadley Wood and beyond would be understandable but not
before it.

Methinks this is a typo.

Bob.
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Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Matthew
Dickinson writes

WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not? There are plenty of stops within TfL between Finsbury Park
and
Hadley Wood. Hadley Wood and beyond would be understandable but not
before it.

Yes, but Oyster *prepay* is not valid at any of those stations. (IIRC
the only place it's valid on [WA]GN is between Moorgate and Finsbury
Park.) Ditto to the previous post - the list is of stations and routes
where Prepay is *not* valid, which (as you suggest) includes all routes
and stations out of Paddington.

I admit it took me a while to realise that as well...

In article , Bob Adams
writes
WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not?

Because there are no Oyster readers.

There are plenty of stops within TfL between Finsbury Park and
Hadley Wood. Hadley Wood and beyond would be understandable but not
before it.

Methinks this is a typo.

Methinks you've misunderstood.

Oyster Prepay is valid for public transport within the TfL zone (which
in this direction ends at Hadley Wood and Crews Hill) *EXCEPT* for those
places where the operators don't provide oysterpads. On WAGN that's
everywhere north of Finsbury Park.

Similar for the other comments.

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Rupert Candy wrote:

Yes, but Oyster *prepay* is not valid at any of those stations. (IIRC
the only place it's valid on [WA]GN is between Moorgate and Finsbury

And Kings Cross - Finsbury park

WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not?

Because there are no Oyster readers.

That's not the only reason. For example, there are Oyster readers at
Willesden Junction and at Gunnersbury, but even so, pre-pay isn't
valid on Silverlink between the two (despite the fact that TfL zonal
tickets are valid on the NLL, and ticket inspectors on the trains need
hand-held Oyster readers anyway because travelcard-on-Oyster is
valid).

In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , Bob Adams
writes
WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not?

Because there are no Oyster readers.


The WAGN grippers carry them and I have seen with my own eyes that they
accept them as valid to stations as far as New Barnet.


Methinks you've misunderstood.


Anything concocted by TfL and WAGN - I usually do.

Bob.
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"dwb" wrote in message ...
Matthew Dickinson wrote:

First Great Western Link
------------------------------
Between London Paddington and Greenford or West Drayton.

Shouldn't that be 'stations past Greenford or West Drayton'?

Otherwise isn't it saying it's not valid at all?

I am trying to say that it's not valid at all on FGWL...

"Bob Adams" wrote in message
...
In message , Clive D. W. Feather
writes
In article , Bob Adams
writes
WAGN
-------
Between Finsbury Park and Hadley Wood or Crews Hill.

Why not?

Because there are no Oyster readers.


The WAGN grippers carry them and I have seen with my own eyes that they
accept them as valid to stations as far as New Barnet.

They accept prepay? Are you sure you're not just seeing Oyster season
tickets being validated.

Dave