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Last night some bright spark at Brent Cross had set all the gates to
enter only, they all displayed no exit. Fortunately the side gate
hadn't been locked.
What happens to people with Oyster cards in this situation.
Kevin

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Just was well it was unlocked then.

Kevin

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Kat typed


wrote:
Last night some bright spark at Brent Cross had set all the gates to
enter only, they all displayed no exit. Fortunately the side gate
hadn't been locked.
What happens to people with Oyster cards in this situation.

They should use the Oyster reader by the manual gate.

Except this sometimes *still* results in an 'incomplete journey'...

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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Can someone explain why the gates being closed for exit when the side
gate was open is a breach of safety?

Barry Salter wrote:
On 19 Apr 2005 00:14:06 -0700, wrote:


Last night some bright spark at Brent Cross had set all the gates to
enter only, they all displayed no exit.


Odd...I was under the impression that the bare minimum of gates was
specified as 1 entry, 1 exit, 1 reversible; and I believe this is/was
the arrangement at Bow Road, for example.

I stand for correction on this matter, but I do find it *very* hard to
believe that there wasn't at *least* one gate available for exit
(unless, for some reason, the 'fixed' exit gate had failed).

Cheers,

Barry

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Barry Salter wrote:
On 19 Apr 2005 00:14:06 -0700, wrote:

Last night some bright spark at Brent Cross had set all the gates to
enter only, they all displayed no exit.

Odd...I was under the impression that the bare minimum of gates was
specified as 1 entry, 1 exit, 1 reversible; and I believe this is/was
the arrangement at Bow Road, for example.

I stand for correction on this matter, but I do find it *very* hard to
believe that there wasn't at *least* one gate available for exit
(unless, for some reason, the 'fixed' exit gate had failed).


Some have their preferences and are used to working in one direction
only but in theory electronic gates can be set open, closed, entry or
exit.
--
Kat

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General Von Clinkerhoffen wrote:
Can someone explain why the gates being closed for exit when the side

gate was open is a breach of safety?



At a guess the amount of people specified in the 'fire capacity'
cannont be evacuated quickly enough through only the side gate. Also,
if the gate is unlocked but closed, how does one know to try it?

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Barry Salter typed


On 19 Apr 2005 00:14:06 -0700, wrote:

Last night some bright spark at Brent Cross had set all the gates to
enter only, they all displayed no exit.

Odd...I was under the impression that the bare minimum of gates was
specified as 1 entry, 1 exit, 1 reversible; and I believe this is/was
the arrangement at Bow Road, for example.

I stand for correction on this matter, but I do find it *very* hard to
believe that there wasn't at *least* one gate available for exit
(unless, for some reason, the 'fixed' exit gate had failed).

I don't find this *at all* difficult to believe.

Burnt Oak had all its gates set to 'exit' a few weeks ago. The situation
*might* have changed after I tried to sort out some incomplete journeys
on my, and my partner's, Oyster Prepay cards. Wecomplained loudly at
another station about the situation at Burnt Oak...

I won't have the problem now I have my Freedom Pass ;-)

--
Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

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Chris! wrote:
At a guess the amount of people specified in the 'fire capacity'
cannont be evacuated quickly enough through only the side gate.

Do the gates not all automatically open in the event of a fire alarm
signal? We operate a restricted entry system at work, and several days
was spent testing that they would open in the event of an alarm being
triggered.

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Chris wrote:
Chris! wrote:

At a guess the amount of people specified in the 'fire capacity'
cannont be evacuated quickly enough through only the side gate.


Do the gates not all automatically open in the event of a fire alarm
signal? We operate a restricted entry system at work, and several days
was spent testing that they would open in the event of an alarm being
triggered.

They should do.

I've been in the ticket hall (at Stepney Green, as it happens) when an
Inspector Sands announcement turned into an evacuation, and as soon as
the evacuation announcement started all the gates opened automatically.