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John Rowland May 4th 05 10:19 AM

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"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
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Dr John Stockton typed

Where's HA3? - sounds as if it should be in Yorkshire. Hackney?


HA3 is a rather odd area of Harrow:


It's the Chile of the postcode map, 8km long and about 1km wide.

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MaxB May 4th 05 11:29 AM

Old A-Zs of London
 
According to my 1905 map of the area, what is now Northland Street didn't
exist and Vaughn Street had a 90 degree bend in it at what is now the
junction with Southwell Road. So there was no confusion, just one road!
Don't know when this extra road was built.


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"thoss" wrote in message
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In article , Richard J.
writes
thoss wrote:

Incidentally and somewhat OT, I note from the Bartholomew Pocket
London Atlas 1939 that in the period 1937-9 Vaughan Road, Lambeth,
was renamed Southwell Road. I wonder why.


The present Southwell Road SE5 runs parallel to and south-east of
Coldharbour Lane, with five short streets linking them, one of which is
Vaughan Road. See map at http://tinyurl.com/bhptu . Are you saying
that before 1937 both the present Vaughan Road and the present Southwell
Road were both called Vaughan Road? If so, the change was probably to
avoid confusion.

I can't say anything about the details. My earliest atlas is the one
mentioned above. The map shows Coldharbour Lane, Vaughan Road parallel
to it and, as you say, several short streets linking them.
Unfortunately these are not named. The atlas has a supplementary index
listing street name changes 1937-39. There seem to be an awful lot of
them - 12 pages worth. I wonder whether the Luftwaffe caused so many.
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Helen Deborah Vecht May 4th 05 12:59 PM

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"John Rowland" typed


"Tom Anderson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 3 May 2005, John Rowland wrote:



Anyway, thanks for all the replies - now that I have narrowed it down to
1963-1971, I might pursue the matter with the library, if I can be arsed.


If I get the tuits, I'll have a look at my old maps...

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Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Helen Deborah Vecht May 4th 05 01:08 PM

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"John Rowland" typed


"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
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Dr John Stockton typed

Where's HA3? - sounds as if it should be in Yorkshire. Hackney?


HA3 is a rather odd area of Harrow:


It's the Chile of the postcode map, 8km long and about 1km wide.


Yup! Had to laugh at 'market researcher' interviewing customers at
Safeway (now Morrison's) in Queensbury, asking people about their
residential postcodes. The store is *just* in NW9, but within a furlong
of HA8, HA7 & HA3. All these postcodes extend for miles radially...

HA3 has no identity as an area, unlike HA7 (Stanmore) and HA8 (Edgware).

Edgware is in three London Boroughs...

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Helen D. Vecht:
Edgware.

Brimstone May 4th 05 01:31 PM

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Helen Deborah Vecht wrote:

If I get the tuits,


There's a world shortage, something to do with the Chinese buying them all
up, same as they've bought up most of the world's supply of steel.



Paul Terry May 4th 05 01:46 PM

Old A-Zs of London
 
In message , John Rowland
writes

Because it is several decades newer than every other road within a 3 mile
radius, except for cul-de-sacs, industrial estate roads, bypasses, and roads
built on the former Hendon Aerodrome. Unlike any of the other new roads, it
turned two previously sleepy neighbourhoods into the shortest through route
from Hatch End and Wealdstone to Central London, and the construction of
such a road goes totally against everything that is considered good in
transport planning - in fact, its strategic location as a cut-through means
that it is exactly the sort of road which, had it been built at the same
time as the neighbouring estates, would probably have been subsequently
blocked, or at least width-restricted, but there is not even much on the way
of speed bumps anywhere near it.


Could it have been built to improve emergency-vehicle access?

--
Paul Terry

thoss May 4th 05 03:15 PM

Old A-Zs of London
 
In article , Helen Deborah
Vecht writes
"John Rowland" typed


"Helen Deborah Vecht" wrote in message
...
Dr John Stockton typed

Where's HA3? - sounds as if it should be in Yorkshire. Hackney?

HA3 is a rather odd area of Harrow:


It's the Chile of the postcode map, 8km long and about 1km wide.


Yup! Had to laugh at 'market researcher' interviewing customers at
Safeway (now Morrison's) in Queensbury, asking people about their
residential postcodes. The store is *just* in NW9, but within a furlong
of HA8, HA7 & HA3. All these postcodes extend for miles radially...

HA3 has no identity as an area, unlike HA7 (Stanmore) and HA8 (Edgware).

Edgware is in three London Boroughs...

Another mystery brought up by this thread: A friend lives in Uphill
Drive, NW9, just off Kingsbury Road and not a million yards from
Southwell Road. Uphill Drive was built in the thirties, but it didn't
make it into the A-Z until the eighties. WhY?
--
Thoss

Paul Terry May 4th 05 05:27 PM

Old A-Zs of London
 
In message , thoss
writes

Another mystery brought up by this thread: A friend lives in Uphill
Drive, NW9, just off Kingsbury Road and not a million yards from
Southwell Road. Uphill Drive was built in the thirties, but it didn't
make it into the A-Z until the eighties. WhY?


It is clearly shown on my 1948 edition of the A-Z.
(Page 27, Square 3D).

--
Paul Terry

thoss May 4th 05 07:06 PM

Old A-Zs of London
 
In article , Paul Terry
writes
In message , thoss
writes

Another mystery brought up by this thread: A friend lives in Uphill
Drive, NW9, just off Kingsbury Road and not a million yards from
Southwell Road. Uphill Drive was built in the thirties, but it didn't
make it into the A-Z until the eighties. WhY?


It is clearly shown on my 1948 edition of the A-Z.
(Page 27, Square 3D).

It's not in my 1940 Bartholomew's Reference Atlas, but I find that it is
in my Geographia atlas, c 1950. Maybe only some publishers missed it
out.

Certainly my friend used to find it impossible to get taxis along
because the drivers assured him that his address did not exist. They of
course know better than the chap who lives there.
--
Thoss

Terry Harper May 4th 05 11:03 PM

Old A-Zs of London
 
On Wed, 04 May 2005 09:33:45 -0000, (Mark Brader) wrote:

Terry Harper writes:
My A-Z dating from the decimalization era (1971-2), shows Southwell
Road, Harrow.


I wonder if we have the same edition. Mine shows the road; its cover
price is 30p or 6'-; there is no date, but the monochrome Underground
diagram on the back cover has a note in tiny print, just above the key,
about the *planned* opening of the Victoria Line extension to Brixton.
(Namely: "Stockwell and Brixton opening second half 1971; Vauxhall
and Pimlico 1972". As it turned out, Vauxhall actually opened along
with Stockwell and Brixton stations in July 1971.) Of course this does
not necessarily indicate the date of the street maps, and for that
matter, the street maps in the volume are not necessarily all for the
same date.


The front cover is the same, but the LT Map doesn't have that note. On
page 77 it shows "Open 1971" where the Victoria line goes under the
river.

Looks like mine is the one after yours.
--
Terry Harper
Website Coordinator, The Omnibus Society
http://www.omnibussoc.org


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