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"Roger the cabin boy" wrote in
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After some debatre on hgere I noted tonight that NEW dot matrix describer
has appeared on the WB platform at Liverpool St (Met Circle)

Rumour is they will be doing Barbican too.





Barbican has now been done, both Eastbound and Westbound.

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David Jackman wrote in message 52.50...
"Roger the cabin boy" wrote in
:

After some debatre on hgere I noted tonight that NEW dot matrix describer
has appeared on the WB platform at Liverpool St (Met Circle)

Rumour is they will be doing Barbican too.





Barbican has now been done, both Eastbound and Westbound.

and will it actually give the time of the next train in minutes or
will it just show "all trains go to kings cross st pancras", like you
didn't know already, until 1 minute before the train is due to arrive.

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"nmtop40" wrote in message
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David Jackman wrote in message
52.50...
"Roger the cabin boy" wrote in
:

After some debatre on hgere I noted tonight that NEW dot matrix
describer
has appeared on the WB platform at Liverpool St (Met Circle)

Rumour is they will be doing Barbican too.





Barbican has now been done, both Eastbound and Westbound.

and will it actually give the time of the next train in minutes or
will it just show "all trains go to kings cross st pancras", like you
didn't know already, until 1 minute before the train is due to arrive.

I saw that new describer a few days ago and it did give the next three
trains. However, I noticed something different on this one that I had never
seen before. It said:

1 CIRCLE LINE via Paddington DELAY.
2 HAMMERSMITH via Shepherd's Bush 8mins.

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David Jackman wrote in message 52.50...
"Roger the cabin boy" wrote in
:

After some debatre on hgere I noted tonight that NEW dot matrix describer
has appeared on the WB platform at Liverpool St (Met Circle)

Rumour is they will be doing Barbican too.





Barbican has now been done, both Eastbound and Westbound.

Amazing , its only taken them almost 20 years since the first dot matrix
displays appeared on the northern line to install them on a major central
london section of the met/circle. You've got to love the speed at which LU
operates. Still , with a company that takes 9 months to fix an escalator
nothing comes as a surprise anymore...

B2003

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Boltar writes
Still , with a company that takes 9 months to fix an escalator nothing
comes as a surprise anymore...

I'd like to se you do it any faster...

--
Dave

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In message , Boltar
writes
with a company that takes 9 months to fix an escalator nothing comes as
a surprise anymore...

Isn't it taking 18months at Marylebone to replace or fix or whatever
they are doing to it?

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CJG

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Amazing , its only taken them almost 20 years since the first dot matrix
displays appeared on the northern line to install them on a major central
london section of the met/circle. You've got to love the speed at which LU
operates.

It will take another 5 Years to get the things working.

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Dave wrote in message ...
Boltar writes
Still , with a company that takes 9 months to fix an escalator nothing
comes as a surprise anymore...

I'd like to se you do it any faster...

If I was trained and was part of a good team I'm damn sure I could. When
railtrack replaced the escalators at fenchurch street station it took them...
... ready for this?... ONE WEEK! It can be done if the people doing it have a
clue and give a sh*t.

B2003

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CJG wrote in message ...
In message , Boltar
writes
with a company that takes 9 months to fix an escalator nothing comes as
a surprise anymore...

Isn't it taking 18months at Marylebone to replace or fix or whatever
they are doing to it?


More than likely. It took them 3 years to sort out all the escalators at
Holborn. Considering it took far less time than that to originally build the
station including installing the escalators you can only laugh at the absurdity
of it all.

B2003

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Boltar writes
More than likely. It took them 3 years to sort out all the escalators
at Holborn. Considering it took far less time than that to originally
build the station including installing the escalators you can only
laugh at the absurdity of it all.

It's often the case that building something is a lot quicker than
dismantling and replacing parts of it.

If the factory can build a car from scratch on less than an hour - why
is it that the garage takes two days to replace the engine?

--
Dave

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Dave wrote in message ...
Boltar writes
I'd like to se you do it any faster...

If I was trained and was part of a good team I'm damn sure I could.
When railtrack replaced the escalators at fenchurch street station it
took them..... ready for this?... ONE WEEK! It can be done if the
people doing it have a clue and give a sh*t.

And if you can't spot the difference between the two situations, then
I'm pretty glad that you won't ever be allowed near the workings of an
escalator.

Do the ones at fenchurt street run 12 hours a day? Yes.

Are they used by thousands of people every day? Yes.

Are they in a dirty enviroment and partially exposed to the elements? Yes.

So what do the LU ones have to do that others don't? Please explain cos I'm
all ears....

B2003

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Dave wrote in message ...
Boltar writes
More than likely. It took them 3 years to sort out all the escalators
at Holborn. Considering it took far less time than that to originally
build the station including installing the escalators you can only
laugh at the absurdity of it all.

It's often the case that building something is a lot quicker than
dismantling and replacing parts of it.

If the factory can build a car from scratch on less than an hour - why
is it that the garage takes two days to replace the engine?

Because they don't have access to the original factory equipment or manpower
to do it quicker. When you have those facilities you CAN do it as witnessed by
rally teams who can change an engine in 30 minutes. And as LU is fond of
telling us these escalators have gone back to the manufacturers factory
for some TLC where presumably they have all the people and equipment they
need. So that excuse doesn't wash. Next....

B2003

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Boltar writes
And as LU is fond of telling us these escalators have gone back to the
manufacturers factory

When have they ever said that?

--
Dave

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Boltar writes
And if you can't spot the difference between the two situations, then
I'm pretty glad that you won't ever be allowed near the workings of an
escalator.

So what do the LU ones have to do that others don't? Please explain cos I'm
all ears....

Sit down, have a nice cup of tea, put on your thinking cap, concentrate
*really* hard and you might just work it out.

--
Dave

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CJG writes

Is the answer L.U. Is badly managed and bogged down with regulations
and paperwork and a contractor can't even blow his nose without getting
permission from a senior member of station management and a line
controller. While rail track was just badly managed?

I would answer that question, but then you'd probably only claim that I
was posting from an LU e-mail address.

--
Dave

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Dave wrote in message ...
Boltar writes
And as LU is fond of telling us these escalators have gone back to the
manufacturers factory

When have they ever said that?

I believe it was mentioned in Metro once. Or do you have other information?
Does the station manager have all the bits tucked away in the back room?

B2003

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Dave wrote in message ...
Boltar writes
And if you can't spot the difference between the two situations, then
I'm pretty glad that you won't ever be allowed near the workings of an
escalator.

So what do the LU ones have to do that others don't? Please explain cos I'm
all ears....

Sit down, have a nice cup of tea, put on your thinking cap, concentrate
*really* hard and you might just work it out.

Save the patronising for someone whos impressed by it. Just give us some
information as to why these escalators are so different from all others in
the world. If you have any that is which I doubt.

B2003

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Boltar writes
And as LU is fond of telling us these escalators have gone back to the
manufacturers factory

When have they ever said that?

I believe it was mentioned in Metro once.

Oh right. Well, we've already seen what you 'believe' to be true...

Does the station manager have all the bits tucked away in the back room?

Of course they do. a huge-big ****-off with all the parts required to
replace every single escalator on the system. And the only reason they
don't replace it in a single week is to **** you off.

--
Dave

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Boltar writes

I believe it was mentioned in Metro once.

Oh right. Well, we've already seen what you 'believe' to be true...

Does the station manager have all the bits tucked away in the back room?

Of course they do. A huge-big ****-off cupboard, with all the parts
required to replace every single escalator on the system. And the only
reason they don't replace it in a single week, is just to **** *you*
off.

--
Dave

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Dave wrote in message ...
Of course they do. a huge-big ****-off with all the parts required to
replace every single escalator on the system. And the only reason they
don't replace it in a single week is to **** you off.

Aww bless , he doesn't get sarcasm when he's not dishing it out himself.
The fact that you've yet to provide a single bit of evidence to back up your
arguments just proves that either you're a troll or you're full of it. Probably
both.

*plonk*

B2003

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 14:19:41 +0100 Dave wrote:
} Boltar writes
}
} I believe it was mentioned in Metro once.
}
} Oh right. Well, we've already seen what you 'believe' to be true...
}
} Does the station manager have all the bits tucked away in the back room?
}
} Of course they do. A huge-big ****-off cupboard, with all the parts
} required to replace every single escalator on the system.

It's just of Vine Street Bridge which I've always thought rather ironic
as the station nearest has no escalators.

Matthew
--
Il est important d'être un homme ou une femme en colère; le jour où nous
quitte la colère, ou le désir, c'est cuit. - Barbara

http://www.calmeilles.co.uk/

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
Boltar writes
Sit down, have a nice cup of tea, put on your thinking cap, concentrate
*really* hard and you might just work it out.

Save the patronising for someone whos impressed by it. Just give us some
information as to why these escalators are so different from all others
in
the world. If you have any that is which I doubt.

It's so damn obvious that if you cant work it out, you must be a bit
thick.



Patronizing tone aside, am I correct in thinking that you're referring to
the levels of usage? Fenchurch Street has approximately one arrival and one
departure every ten minutes, meaning that each escalator is carrying the
passengers for approximately six trains every hour. A station like Tottenham
Court Road, in comparison, will be catering for more like forty trains every
hour - which are, I suspect, longer, and certainly more heavily used than
the C2C trains.

So the wear and tear experienced by escalators at key LUL stations is going
to be a hell of a lot greater than that at Fenchurch Street.

They're also a lot longer.

Jonn Elledge

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Jonn Elledge writes
It's so damn obvious that if you cant work it out, you must be a bit
thick.

Patronizing tone aside,

I make no apologies for patronising people who have previously been
patronising towards me and who are also brainless idiots.

am I correct in thinking that you're referring to the levels of usage?
Fenchurch Street has approximately one arrival and one departure every
ten minutes, meaning that each escalator is carrying the passengers for
approximately six trains every hour. A station like Tottenham Court
Road, in comparison, will be catering for more like forty trains every
hour - which are, I suspect, longer, and certainly more heavily used
than the C2C trains.

So the wear and tear experienced by escalators at key LUL stations is
going to be a hell of a lot greater than that at Fenchurch Street.

They're also a lot longer.

Those reasons and more. One major reason being the location.

It's easy to forget that they are deep underground, which is not the
most easily-accessible place. Especially when it comes to replacing a
huge solidly-built escalator th at has been in situ since the 1930s.

http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/faq/escexplain.asp

or if you have time to spare;
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v24/n05/camp01_.html

--
Dave